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ristrettobabe
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Posted Tue Feb 15, 2005, 12:07am Subject: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

Has anyone tried this? Whaja think?

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Posted Tue Feb 15, 2005, 6:26am Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

Yes I have tried it. It is roasted very light. To me it tasted different, shall we say. I prefer a bit darker roast, to full city. Their nuevo blend was better to me. Brad

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Posted Tue Feb 15, 2005, 12:47pm Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

I just got a fresh bag this Saturday. Like Bman said, it's roasted very light. Perhaps it's the fault of my machine or my technique (or both!), but I have yet to pull a shot that I'd say was comparable in complexity and full flavor to Black Cat. I wish I could be more descriptive but I suspect I still miss a lot of subtlety in my espressos. In my soy lattes it's very muted, too, where Black Cat shines through.

ristrettobabe
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Posted Tue Feb 15, 2005, 8:06pm Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

I've got some coming tomorrow, and after what you both have said, it will be interesting to see how I like it. I've always preferred the darkish side. I knew this would be lighter, but maybe not as much as you've described. Hmmm...

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Posted Tue Feb 15, 2005, 8:42pm Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

This classico blend is very, very flavorful. It is very bright and complex, and you can pick up on the fruit notes and the sweetness right away. The aftertaste reminds me of a very light chocolate flavor. In my opinion, this is one of the best blends I have tasted. Im sure you will be plesantly surprised. I have not yet tasted the Black Cat blend, but from what I am picking up from this site, you can't really compare it to Classico. It is more simlilar to ParadiseRoasters Espresso Nuevo. But I could be wrong again. RistrettoBabe, just remember, we all have our opinions. Try it for yourself and be open-minded about it. That is, blank out what we said in this thread and fill in the blanks yourself. I'm sure you'll have a much more insightful experience that way. Tell us how it tastes! Peter

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ristrettobabe
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Posted Tue Feb 15, 2005, 11:25pm Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

Pe_tah Said: RistrettoBabe, just remember, we all have our opinions. Try it for yourself and be open-minded about it. That is, blank out what we said in this thread and fill in the blanks yourself. I'm sure you'll have a much more insightful experience that way. Tell us how it tastes! Posted February 15, 2005 link Peter, you are so right...to each their own! It's very subjective. I will have no problem whatsoever making up my own mind and not being swayed by preconceived notions or les opinions. I'm pretty opinionated and quite sure of what I like and don't like. Just thought it would be interesting to gather a few assessments, find out who's tried it, maybe pick up a tip on tastes to look for in there....while I'm waiting for it to arrive. Give me a week and I'll tell ya how it is for me! =) RB

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LukeW
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Posted Thu Feb 17, 2005, 6:57pm Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

I read a review of this blend at www.coffeereview.com I ordered a couple 14oz bags and found that I had to keep making the grind finer and finer to at last get a proper shot. The taste was just okay. In milk, it was subtle, not robust as I had hoped. We drink a lot of latte with a single shot in a regular coffee cup (approc. 6 oz) and this blend just doesn't stand up to the milk. As a single shot in the small cup, it has nice flavor, but not as rich as Black Cat. The roast is very even, but more light than I like.

ristrettobabe
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Posted Thu Feb 17, 2005, 10:58pm Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

Thanks guys. I got my coffee yesterday afternoon, but my grinder went weird on me...really uneven, chunky grind on any setting. Must be a bean stuck in there? I cleaned the burrs, area around them, and chute really well, but no better. In the meantime made a pot o' French press w/ it...what else could I do? And it was terrible. I won't be able to assess the beans until I can get that grinder working right. Boo hoo hoo...I just want my esprehhhhhso! kathy

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ristrettobabe
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Posted Tue Feb 22, 2005, 12:45am Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

ristrettobabe Said: ...my grinder went weird on me...really uneven, chunky grind on any setting Posted February 17, 2005 link OK, got that fixed and have been pulling shots. I'm still pretty new at this, and I'm doing what's worked pretty well with other (even storebought) beans, but the shots are both bitter and sour. Any suggestions? kathy

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bolojm
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Posted Tue Feb 22, 2005, 6:04am Subject: Re: Paradise Roasters' Espresso Classico?

I have emailed Miguel from Paradise a couple of times, and this is a very finicky blend. Generally, in my experience, the lighter the roast for espresso, the less forgiving it is. Quoted from Miguel: Yes the Classico can be a little finicky and sour if not properly dialed in. I find best results with ristrettos of about 3/4 - 7/8 oz. in 23-25 seconds using 18+ grams of coffee and a course grind. This tends to produce an espresso with a richer fruit taste and milder acidity. I don't have a PID myself so I can't comment with absolute athority on temp but others have informed me that it works well at 202-203 degrees. Hope this is of some help. I had cranked up the temperature on my PIDed Amica, (about 202 degrees) but still the shots were sour. I have some more on order, and plan to play with it again. It is a challenge, but I am up for it! I'll post my results as soon as I can.

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