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Posted Fri Aug 15, 2003, 3:42pm
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Hi everybody!
I just found a very, very old posting where Owen mentioned Julius Meinl Coffee sold for 5-7 $ per cup.
Julius Meinl is very famous roaster here in Austria, specially in Vienna. If anyone want's to try it, I'm sitting next to the source here and could send it to you. On www.meinl.at they have an english site, too, and if you go to "coffees", click through all the different roasts, they explane their blends a bit.
The prices are in EURO, take it x 1,3 = U$D.
I have to admit I never tried it, so I can't give any suggestions. I just thought someone might be interested...
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Posted Fri Aug 15, 2003, 4:03pm
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Their "King Hadramaut" East African blend just garnered a star 90 point review with Ken Davids.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 15, 2003, 4:16pm
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Wow, unfortunately they don't recommend it for espressomachines. And I have nothing else to try it.
BTW, where can I read these reviews?
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Posted Fri Aug 15, 2003, 4:55pm
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johannabanana Said:

Wow, unfortunately they don't recommend it for espressomachines. And I have nothing else to try it.
BTW, where can I read these reviews?
joey

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Sorry. http://coffeereview.com It's a must on every coffee lovers bookmarks, since it has a searchable archive of roasted bean reviews. Just type in "espresso", and you'll get a few hundred commercial blends for review.

Of course, they're not much use in Austria, except as general info. Can you get Jolly Cafe? I personally prefer it over Illy, but I don't know much about the espresso blends available there.

If I were in Vienna, and didn't home roast, I'd look for all the small roasters and make a project out of trying their beans. In the States, at least, local roasters are glad to meet enthusiastic customers. If you can strike up a relationship, you could maybe get them to mix you up an espresso blend you like.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 15, 2003, 5:28pm
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another_jim Said:

Can you get Jolly Cafe? I personally prefer it over Illy, but I don't know much about the espresso blends available there..

Posted August 16, 2003 link

Thanks for the adress, and nope, never heard of Jolly.
We have different blends from the roasters I'll mention below, and from Italy some Segafredo, Illy, Lavazza,..."taste it.at" also sells some blends from Italy, very expensive...

another_jim Said:

If I were in Vienna, and didn't home roast, I'd look for all the small roasters and make a project out of trying their beans. In the States, at least, local roasters are glad to meet enthusiastic customers. If you can strike up a relationship, you could maybe get them to mix you up an espresso blend you like.

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We have Jacobs, Meinl and Alvorada as big roasters.
And I just found one small roaster in Vienna called "mocca brasil". I'll visit him soon. With the others I talked already. Meinl doesn't sell geen beans. Jakobs doesn't either, but the lady was very nice on the phone and said "she can give me a handful" like "when a bag is leaking" or Mafia style: when things fall off the truck...
But today I got a very nice email from theManaging Director from Alvorada who is willing to sell me green beans in smaller amounts. I'll hopefully met him soon to discuss further business.

Actually I think I'm one of about 3 persons in Vienna who does homeroast. Pesonally I only know a man from the Coffee Museum, but we don't have much contact.

My machine dealer tried it once, but didn't like it. He said it's too stinky and loud.

I even had a hard time to find my Precision here. They only had this one machine, I wonder how long ;-)

When I tell people that I'm roasting coffe, they think about grinding it fresh. After some seconds it comes: "did you say roasting? how? Why?"...

My grandmother used to roast, too. i still have an old pan in the basement, the one with the cover and a crankarm, made of iron..

Ups, somebody stop me talking! Sorry. I'm loosing focus...
Anyway, if someone needs coffe from Austria - anytime.

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Posted Fri Aug 15, 2003, 6:39pm
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I visited a Julius Meinl store here in chicago (Southport and Addison)...The interior is very nice, a lot of wood work.  It sells awesome pastries along with coffee.  

My friend from Germany told me (as Joey mentioned also) that Julius Meinl is very popular in Vienna.  They serve the coffee with a glass of water (the proper way I was told), but I drank the coffee, ate my pastry, and left the water untouched...

 
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Posted Sat Aug 16, 2003, 6:33pm
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spnakr007 Said:

They serve the coffee with a glass of water (the proper way I was told), but I drank the coffee, ate my pastry, and left the water untouched...

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Steve, you should drink the water.
Coffee is one of the beverages that dehydrates the body because it stimulates the blood flow of your kidneys(so does beer, tea and wine, too). That leads to a higher removal of fluid from the kidney than it gets from the coffee. So to every cup of coffee you should drink a big glass of water. This is how you reveal a "good" coffee-house in Vienna. The barista should know that.

Prost!
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Posted Sat Aug 16, 2003, 8:26pm
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Joey,

I'll try to remember to drink that glass of water next time...Learning something new everyday...

BTW, I love Erdinger Weissbier.  So, Prost!

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Posted Mon Aug 18, 2003, 6:02am
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Interesting comment about the water - I'm a water drinker by nature and never noticed the dehydration factor but it makes sense.

I'm sure the Julius Meinl coffee sells for less elsewhere but Cafe Sabrasky in NYC (it's affiliated with a museum of Austrian art that was founded by Ronald Lauder of Estee Lauder fame) is the where it sells for that insane price ($5 - $7).

Since then I've seen it available for retail sale at Chef Central on Rte 17 North in Paramus NJ and IIRC it was less than $10 per pound or thereabouts.

 
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Posted Tue Mar 1, 2005, 5:36am
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I stoppen by the Addison and Southport  Julius Meinl store, had a shot, and bought two pounds, or is it two kilos. One Cafe Del Morro and one Espresso Espezial.

I asked where the coffee was roasted, and the very helpful guy said Vienna (i think). So, it's roasted in Italy and shipped over. This concerned me as I have no idea how old the coffee is.

Well, I can't get  decent shot. I have adjust grind and tamp with no luck. light crema - just seems off.

Has anyone used Meinl form espresso???? What has your experience been?

I heard great things about Meinl and the shot I had at the store was great, so I am a little bumed out. Had to fall back to an emergency stash of Pike Peak from the original Starbucks store in Seattle.... Not that bad....

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