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irishroast
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Posted Thu May 3, 2012, 4:21pm
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]hi all
love the site , tons of info , l'm new to the home espresso making , recently bought one of these De'Longhi EC330S Pump Espresso Coffee Machine
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tried all the standard supermarket stuff its nice but a store just opened in town stocking this stuff http://www.jjdarboven.ie/products/ and was wondering if anyone has tried them before , bought this one to try http://www.jjdarboven.ie/products/movenpick/ and its really nice no sharpness , slight bitterness but very little , the women in the store tells me the coffee is roasted without the use of additives usually used in commercial coffees
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Posted Thu May 3, 2012, 10:56pm
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Well, it's industrially roasted coffee, so it's probably not very fresh. Even though industrial packaging does work to protect the aroma up to a certain point, roasted beans go stale within weeks. You can estimate the date of roast by subtracting two years from the "best before" date printed on the package.

Purists will tell you that anything older than 15 days is crap. They're basically right, because that's when the beans will be at their height. However, IMHO you can still enjoy coffee that's been packed and stored properly for about two or three months. After that it's for the compost heap.

You did not tell, if you used freshly ground beans or pre-ground coffee. The later will not be fresh at all, because ground coffee goes stale within 15 minutes.

Try to find a local roaster or a microroaster that sells its products online in order to get fresh beans.

Also the De'Longhi EC330S comes with a pressurized portafilter, which produces foamed coffee instead of real crema. Try to get rid of that.

Having said all that, what really counts in the end is that you personally like the taste of your caffè no matter what.

 
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Posted Fri May 4, 2012, 5:48am
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Well, it's industrially roasted coffee, so it's probably not very fresh. Even though industrial packaging does work to protect the aroma up to a certain point, roasted beans go stale within weeks. You can estimate the date of roast by subtracting two years from the "best before" date printed on the package.


well the pack l bought has a best before of 04/2013 , its ground coffee , foil wrapped , a brick she called it , it also has a production dat of 11/2011

Purists will tell you that anything older than 15 days is crap. They're bacically right, because that's when the beans will be at their height. However, IMHO you can still enjoy coffee that's been packed and stored properly for about two or three months. After that it's for the compost heap.


l have a grinder , so buying beans and grinding them , and keeping them stored would be better ya think

You did not tell, if you used freshly grinded beans or pre-ground coffee. The later will not be fresh at all, because ground coffee goes stale within 15 minutes.

Try to find a local roaster or a microroaster that sells its products online in order to get fresh beans.

Also the De'Longhi EC330S comes with a pressurized portafilter, which produces foamed coffee instead of real crema. Try to get rid of that.


ya it has some kinda gizmo under the bit were the grinds go , l have a standard portafilter , will use that instead

Having said all that, what really counts in the end is that you personally like the taste of your caffè no matter what.


well its alot nicer than the standard store bought stuff l was using , were even stocking starbucks ground coffee over here now , lol
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Posted Fri May 4, 2012, 5:55am
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also they sell these coffee pads ? have you any opinion on those they seem a bit gimmick'y , basically coffee in a tea bag
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Posted Fri May 4, 2012, 7:23am
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irishroast Said:

also they sell these coffee pads ? have you any opinion on those they seem a bit gimmick'y , basically coffee in a tea bag

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Coffee pads contain pre-ground coffee. So they'll go stale faster than you could brew.

 
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Posted Fri May 4, 2012, 7:31am
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Hi, Mac -- welcome to CG . . .

First of all, pods are to quality espresso what tea dust (bags) are to tea leaves.

Secondly, you need to remember that Starbucks sucks . . . just like any industrially roasted coffee, it's not very fresh by the time it reaches supermarket shelves -- let alone their own stores.  

Third, get rid of that pressurized portafilter!  

Fourth, "Best By" dates are best to be avoided.  They are meaningless!  If there was a roast date of November 2011, it was stale several months ago -- even more rapidly if it was pre-ground:  stale before it left their warehouse!

Remember Babbie's Rule of Fifteens:
-- Green (unroasted) coffee beans should be roasted within 15 months, or they go stale.
-- Roasted coffee beans should be ground within 15 days, or they go stale.
-- Ground coffee should be used within 15 minutes, or it goes stale.

And finally, remember The Four M's of Espresso:
1) the Macinazione is the grinder, and with it, the correct grinding of the coffee beans;
2) the Miscela is the coffee beans/blend itself;
3) the Macchina is the espresso machine; and
4) the Mano is the skilled hand of the barista.  

All four are important to producing great coffee; all four need to be managed/adjusted properly.  And nothing is more important than the grinder.

Cheers,
Jason

P.S.  I don't know of any roasters specifically in Éire, but here are some across small bodies of water . . .
Caffè Cataldi, Louargat, Bretagne, France (Note: site is in both French and English)
Coffee Collective, Copenhagen, Denmark
The Drury Tea & Coffee Co., London UK
Has Bean Coffee, Seighford, Staffordshire, UK
James Gourmet Coffee, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, UK
Kaffa, Oslo, Norway
Kaffeespezialitae, Graz, Austria
Londinium, London, UK
Monmouth Coffee, London, UK
Origin Coffee Roasters, Helston, Cornwall, UK
Smith's Coffee Co., Ltd., Hemel Hempstead, UK
Square Mile Coffee, London, UK
Stockfleth's, Oslo, Norway
Tim Wendelbloe, Oslo, Norway
Union Hand-Roasted, London, UK

 
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Posted Fri May 4, 2012, 7:54am
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I don't know which part of Ireland you're from, but there's a farmer's market in Cork where a couple of local roasters sell their products. One of them is Cork Coffee Roasters who also sell their beans online.

Out of the roasters that Jason mentioned I can personally recommend Londinium Espresso.

 
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