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franmon
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 5:51pm
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Hi,

I just bought a new superautomatic (Delonghi ESAM 3500) and would like recommendations for what beans to use with it. Until now, I was drinking William Spartivento Sumatra, but I read everywhere that oily beans are bad for superautomatics, so I need to find a new blend.

Can I get any suggestions of either a less oily Sumatran blend, or something else in the same taste palette? I will mostly brew cappuccinos and lattes with it.

Thanks a lot!
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 7:13pm
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franmon Said:

Hi,

I just bought a new superautomatic (Delonghi ESAM 3500) and would like recommendations for what beans to use with it. Until now, I was drinking William Spartivento Sumatra, but I read everywhere that oily beans are bad for superautomatics, so I need to find a new blend.

Can I get any suggestions of either a less oily Sumatran blend, or something else in the same taste palette? I will mostly brew cappuccinos and lattes with it.

Thanks a lot!

Posted February 10, 2013 link

Any light roasted bean. I wouldn't use anything darker than Full City.  Sumatra can be light roasted.

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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 8:43pm
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Do NOT use and oily bean and do NOT set the grind super fine. I am speaking as one has owned to pricey super autos

 
Yes i have a reason for leaving SCG off my list, yes it is my opinion, yes it is subjective as opinions are by definition, no don't start a flame war because you disagree.
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 6:02am
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It won't make a lot of difference taste wise, but I suppose if you want to extend the longevity of the machine, you have had a few good suggestions. In truth though, because all superautos I have ever tested brew too cool, it's better to use a darker roasted bean, then at least you get some semblance of flavour.
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:25am
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DavecUK Said:

It won't make a lot of difference taste wise, but I suppose if you want to extend the longevity of the machine, you have had a few good suggestions. In truth though, because all superautos I have ever tested brew too cool, it's better to use a darker roasted bean, then at least you get some semblance of flavour.

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That makes sense, however the issue that superautos have with darker roasted beans is a clogging of the chute that goes from the grinder to the "portafilter"; additionally superautos have a hell of a time pushing water through dark roasted bean grounds.

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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:38am
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why waste your hard earned money on good beans, only to ruin them by using a superauto? One may as well save some dough and buy cheap mediocre beans.

 
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 1:19pm
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emradguy Said:

why waste your hard earned money on good beans, only to ruin them by using a superauto? One may as well save some dough and buy cheap mediocre beans.

Posted February 11, 2013 link

I'd imagine that the same argument could be made for comparisons of any coffee making devices.  As an example I have a Brikka, and consider regular moka pots inferior to the Brikka (of course IMHO).  So why would one waste hard earned money on good beans by using a regular old so common place moka pot when they could use a superior Brikka?  Or a techniform over a  regular drip?  How about a Clever over a regular melitta pourover?

Let's give the OP a break, he's trying to make the best of what he has.

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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 1:42pm
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CoffeeRoastersClub Said:

I'd imagine that the same argument could be made for comparisons of any coffee making devices.  As an example I have a Brikka, and consider regular moka pots inferior to the Brikka (of course IMHO).  So why would one waste hard earned money on good beans by using a regular old so common place moka pot when they could use a superior Brikka?  Or a techniform over a  regular drip?  How about a Clever over a regular melitta pourover?

Let's give the OP a break, he's trying to make the best of what he has.

Len

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Thank you.

I clearly labelled my post as to what I wanted to know, so I don't see why I should get crap about what type of machine I use. If I was interested to know opinions about superautomatics, I would have asked that.

Now, thanks to those who took the time to give me actual advice, and I will be pleased to receive more suggestions about coffee blends to use that will taste good and keep my machine working for the longest possible time.
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 1:50pm
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ok, good point Len.  Apologies to OP.

 
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 1:54pm
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emradguy Said:

ok, good point Len.  Apologies to OP.

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Apology accepted. Now, lets talk coffee! :D
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