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Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 8:23am
Subject: Intelligentsia
 

So I love Black Cat, and I was wondering if anyone
has tried Intelligentsia's Italian roast for espresso?
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Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 2:25pm
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

If you want to try another Intelly blend for espresso, I would recommend the Oromo or Kid O's.  The Italian Roast is not really formulated to pull a rich, sweet shot.
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Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 3:12pm
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

I really enjoyed the Ormo in both straight shots and Americanos.  I actually liked Oromo a bit better than Black Cat for Americanos.  I liked Black Cat a little better for straight shots.  The description of the Italian Roast doesn't sound like it will make the best espresso.  Might be good in milk drinks?

Jeremy

 
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Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 3:40pm
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

Geoff recommended trying this year's Celebration blend and I'll get mine at the end of the week. Will post a comment on Monday or Tuesday. The Black Cat is one of my favorites for espresso, with or without milk, but variety is the spice of life!
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Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 4:47pm
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

I ordered some Celebration Blend too, but Mason (who handles online orders) mentioned it is not an espresso blend. Prepared with a presspot, it's a fragrant, fruity blend with a nutty finish. Maybe I'll try it as an Americano just for grins...

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Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 7:11pm
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I just had some El Diablo for my press pot this weekend.
Some of the best stuff I've ever had. The smell alone...
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Posted Wed Dec 22, 2004, 6:45am
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

Why Italian Roast?

Why char a perfectly good specialty arabica bean? (To be read, Perfectly Good Guitar by John Hiatt)

Why did the Italians start to char their beans? (Hey, why not just brew Quick Joe -- I can get you a deal on the stuff)

Why did the French, other than to be different, start to almost char their beans?

I'm going some where with these questions.  Anyone care to chime in?
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Posted Wed Dec 22, 2004, 6:56am
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

Based on what I've read (don't you wish more people would add that caveat?) the "French Roast" moniker has its roots in the delays of old shipping and often, to seem fresh, already roasted coffee would get roasted again, making it really dark and some people took to liking that flavor.  The history of the term Italian roast is likely linked to the fact that a lot of the Italian-American coffee scene from the 60s was dominated by people from Southern Italy.  Roasts are typically darker in Southern Italy, so the subtlety of North/South got lost.  It is also my understanding that the lemon twist sometimes served with espresso is a Sicilian thing, and the source of confusion to many Americans who go to Italy for the first time and don't get one with their espresso.

I actually think I can refer to some documentation for these stories, but I don't have it with me.
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Posted Sun Dec 26, 2004, 1:34pm
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

dark roasting hides off flavors, since southern italy was poorer than northern italy, they bought cheap (robusta) beans and roasted dark to hide off flavors.  Same story goes with France...
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Posted Mon Dec 27, 2004, 9:17am
Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
 

It doesn't have to be robusta to taste bad.  Most arabica beans are of poor quality as well.
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