Trey Senior Member Joined: 23 Jun 2003 Posts: 82 Location: San Francisco Expertise: Professional
Roaster: Stumptown Coffee
Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 2:25pm Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
If you want to try another Intelly blend for espresso, I would recommend the Oromo or Kid O's. The Italian Roast is not really formulated to pull a rich, sweet shot.
Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 3:12pm Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
I really enjoyed the Ormo in both straight shots and Americanos. I actually liked Oromo a bit better than Black Cat for Americanos. I liked Black Cat a little better for straight shots. The description of the Italian Roast doesn't sound like it will make the best espresso. Might be good in milk drinks?
Jeremy
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brugeswalker Senior Member Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Delaware Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Expobar Pulser Grinder: Cunill Tranquilo SS Drip: Only in the office :-( Roaster: Thinking about it
Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 3:40pm Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
Geoff recommended trying this year's Celebration blend and I'll get mine at the end of the week. Will post a comment on Monday or Tuesday. The Black Cat is one of my favorites for espresso, with or without milk, but variety is the spice of life!
Posted Tue Dec 21, 2004, 4:47pm Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
I ordered some Celebration Blend too, but Mason (who handles online orders) mentioned it is not an espresso blend. Prepared with a presspot, it's a fragrant, fruity blend with a nutty finish. Maybe I'll try it as an Americano just for grins...
flydhest Senior Member Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Posts: 274 Location: Washington, DC Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Giotto Grinder: Mazzer Mini Roaster: Hottop
Posted Wed Dec 22, 2004, 6:56am Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
Based on what I've read (don't you wish more people would add that caveat?) the "French Roast" moniker has its roots in the delays of old shipping and often, to seem fresh, already roasted coffee would get roasted again, making it really dark and some people took to liking that flavor. The history of the term Italian roast is likely linked to the fact that a lot of the Italian-American coffee scene from the 60s was dominated by people from Southern Italy. Roasts are typically darker in Southern Italy, so the subtlety of North/South got lost. It is also my understanding that the lemon twist sometimes served with espresso is a Sicilian thing, and the source of confusion to many Americans who go to Italy for the first time and don't get one with their espresso.
I actually think I can refer to some documentation for these stories, but I don't have it with me.
expobar Senior Member Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 3,003 Location: .
Posted Sun Dec 26, 2004, 1:34pm Subject: Re: Intelligentsia
dark roasting hides off flavors, since southern italy was poorer than northern italy, they bought cheap (robusta) beans and roasted dark to hide off flavors. Same story goes with France...
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