Posted Wed Mar 16, 2005, 11:24pm Subject: Re: [almost] burnt by stockfleth's move
I tried it again (at least what I could see of it) and it seems an improvement, but I still can't figure out how much to dose in the first place--how much "headroom" should be in the basket after the tamp as well. But something looked oddly familiar to me about the move--like I'd seen it somewhere before, and not necessarily in a coffee bar. Then it hit me--it looks just like a sushi chef making nigiri. So from now on, handwashing will be an important part of my espresso ritual.
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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005, 3:35am Subject: Re: [almost] burnt by stockfleth's move
lately i combine stockfleth and schomer moves and also combine staub tamp using flat tamper and simple 40# tamp using convex tamper. just to make sure there'll be no sidewall channelling.
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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005, 4:22am Subject: Re: [almost] burnt by stockfleth's move
haha, sounds like overkill but if it produces a shot that tastes good- then why not.
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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005, 9:06am Subject: Re: [almost] burnt by stockfleth's move
I just tried this for the first time, and got terrific results. I've been having problems with leveling, and getting uneven pours. I was using a method similar to what I would use to fill a measuring cup with flour, ie knock it a few times from the top, using a straight edge, and then strike the excess off creating a perfectly level surface. But the pours haven't been that great (for reasons I still don't quite understand), so I decided to try this method, and I like it!
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Sad but true. This morning I dosed to overflowing, leveled with a combination of Stockfleth and Schomer moves, and tamped absolutely evenly with 30#. I still had water coming out the left spout and the edges of the PF. (Yes, I'd cleaned the gasket and screen when I shut down last night).
So I have two more questions: 1--How does one dose with a doserless Rocky? I don't have a gram scale (which wouldn't work anyway since in distribution you lose grounds). Do you overflow, level, overflow some more and then do the "moves" prior to tamp? 2--How much clearance should there be between the top surface of the puck and the top edge of the basket?
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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2005, 12:43pm Subject: Re: [almost] burnt by stockfleth's move
it is a never-ending quest
you dose as you would with anything.
1 - wipe the portafilter basket clean and dry 2 - grind the coffee (and dose) into basket (should be heaping). 3 - if you want you can settle the grounds by tapping the portafilter on the grinder forks - depends on your target dosage which depends on your beans and your desired flavour profile. if you do this, you'll probably need to "top off" your dose 4 - distribute, level 5 - tamp lightly to preserve distribute 6 - if you want to, tap edge of portafilter (very lightly) with top of tamper to knock loose grounds off 7 - tamp hard straight down. release pressure and polish
most people consider that the gap should be 2mm-3mm when dry
I also have a doserless grinder. It's been my experience, having had troubles similar to yours, that the coffee comes out of the spout with a small static charge. I now no longer grind straight into the portafilter, but into the metal bottom of a Zass Turkish grinder. I momentarily ground myself by touching the machine, then shake the cup with my hand across it. At this point, I go get the paper towel I'm going to use to clean up, which allows a few seconds for any charge to bleed off. Some of the result is static dissipation, and I think some is simple mechanical "defluffing", but when I dose, distribute, and tamp this, I don't get any channeling, whereas when I do the same grinding into the portafilter, I get a lot. Easy to try, in any case. I decided that it's one of the hidden benefits of a doser.
Posted Sun Oct 16, 2005, 11:37pm Subject: Re: [almost] burnt by stockfleth's move
Ok, can someone tell me (me being computer illiterate) why the Stockfleth movie file doesn't run - I use Media Player, and the file starts to run and then stops within about second, with only a very faint outline of the first frame on the 'screen'?
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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2005, 1:11pm Subject: Re: [almost] burnt by stockfleth's move
reschsmooth Said:
Ok, can someone tell me (me being computer illiterate) why the Stockfleth movie file doesn't run - I use Media Player, and the file starts to run and then stops within about second, with only a very faint outline of the first frame on the 'screen'?
For those who are having problems getting code when you click it, you can just copy the link's URL, open WMP, hit "ctrl + U" and then hit "ctrl + V" and then "enter" ;Oo
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