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Posted Wed Apr 20, 2005, 12:02am
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malachi Said:

they're not saying you cannot make espresso with anything other than 9BAR and they're not saying they will mark you down if you change the pressure.
they're saying that, in order to make the competition possible they have standardized on one machine, one basket, one brew temp and one brew pressure. for logistical reasons, they do not allow you to change the pressure or the temp (there simply wouldn't be enough time to allow each barista to do so).
if you were to change the pressure to 10BAR you would not recieve a poor score - you would be disqualified.
this is not an espresso decision but rather a practical decision.

Posted April 19, 2005 link


Thanks Chris.  It can be explained like that and people have to follow the same rule in that competition.  I wonder that we may have a better competition for the perfect taste espresso only and everyone can do anything only to present with the best taste of their espresso.  What we have to do is to find out a way to do it.

The point can be this.

For making the best taste of espresso, one has to care of all the elements.  We use the blend which had been used for more than a hundred years.  For any reason, we believe that it gives better taste for the espresso.  No way to change it.

Another example, for the Illy beans, we can make the best taste from their beans under 9.5 bar, never from 9.0 bar.  It is not a problem of skills, but the right conditions for the brewing.

Concerning about the CBC, I know the coffee shop for the barista at round #2 and #3.  Their espresso is surely burnt.  What else?  I do not really know what to say about it.

I do not want to be unpolite to anyone.  But about the fact, what can I do with it.

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Posted Wed Apr 20, 2005, 8:33am
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pstam Said:

I wonder that we may have a better competition for the perfect taste espresso only and everyone can do anything only to present with the best taste of their espresso

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Peter,

Great idea.  When the competition is about how well a barista can consistently reproduce exacted motions, then it is important to have the machines calibrated equally.  

However, a more interesting competition would be one with real world implications - one in which the barista has to work in unity with the machine in order to produce the finest shot of espresso.  This is totally real world and truely tests the skills and art of the best baristas, because machines are constantly in a state of flux, and need to be tuned endlessly.  Very good idea, and I would like to sign my staff on to a competition like that!

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Posted Wed Apr 20, 2005, 6:17pm
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Sutono Said:

Peter,

Great idea.  When the competition is about how well a barista can consistently reproduce exacted motions, then it is important to have the machines calibrated equally.  

However, a more interesting competition would be one with real world implications - one in which the barista has to work in unity with the machine in order to produce the finest shot of espresso.  This is totally real world and truely tests the skills and art of the best baristas, because machines are constantly in a state of flux, and need to be tuned endlessly.  Very good idea, and I would like to sign my staff on to a competition like that!

A testement to the fact that calm seas do not a good captain make!

Posted April 20, 2005 link


Tony,

I love your idea.

Let's make a competition here in this forum to competite the sales of the coffee drinks in terms of the following data collections.

That is, to collect the sales for the pure espresso, including "espresso", "ristretto", and their double forms (each counted as one); as well as the total sales for all kind of coffee drinks (only coffee, not any other soft drinks).  And then, make the calculation as the ratios of sales for espresso to all coffee drinks.

Here is our data list:

"One of the evidence to see the quality of your espresso!"

Peter


PS.  Since the original info about the data is not related to this thread and I cannot cancel this post, I removed it from this post and refer the people to see above post.  Sorry for any trouble to others.

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Posted Wed Apr 20, 2005, 10:40pm
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pstam Said:

Here is our data list:


espresso                                14.71%

drip coffee                              30.53%

caffe latte                              13.43%

cappuccino                             15.88%

Posted April 20, 2005 link

That adds up to 74.55% total, not 100%. Please explain.
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Posted Thu Apr 21, 2005, 5:09am
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GaryH Said:

That adds up to 74.55% total, not 100%. Please explain.

Posted April 20, 2005 link


OK.

The rest is the sales for other coffee drinks, like royal coffee, irish coffee, ice coffee and so on.


Among those, the Kaffa Ice Coffee is the most fantastic coffee drink, which is quite different from the normal ice coffee.

"Kaffa Cafe's coffee pictures"?LastView=1114085258&Page=2

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Posted Thu Apr 21, 2005, 8:49am
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pstam Said:

Here is our data list:

espresso                                14.71%

drip coffee                              30.53%

caffe latte                              13.43%

cappuccino                             15.88%

hmmm...if we do not count the drip coffee (and I think that we can all agree that ''drip people got no reason to live''), it can be said that Kaffa serves about 1/3 espresso of all espresso based drinks.

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