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RapidCoffee
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Posted Thu Jun 9, 2005, 4:58pm
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And later in the pour:

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 5:14am
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RapidCoffee Said:

Those shots are looking better and better... yum!

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Yes indeed!  Lookin' good John!!

shadowfax Said:

I guess if I tightened the grind up I might catch some bigger tiger balls, huh?

Posted June 9, 2005 link

It's very possible.

shadowfax Said:

...the camera decided to focus on the pour ....

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I have been having terrible focus problems lately (but it might just be a shaky operator).

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 9:13am
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Here's one taken in a mirror. (Thanks to Cajun_brew for the hint.)

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 10:45am
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JonR10 Said:

I have been having terrible focus problems lately (but it might just be a shaky operator).

Posted June 10, 2005 link

You know you need to cut back on coffee when....

RapidCoffee Said:

Here's one taken in a mirror. (Thanks to Cajun_brew for the hint.)

Posted June 10, 2005 link

very impressive.


Jon, do use a convex tamp?

I have noticed my shower screen impressions are pretty curved on my pucks (big surprise, with a convex screen), and I wonder if a convext tamp might be better for my extractions. My thinking is that, with my flat tamp, the coffee is having room to expand along the edges, but not in the center, and so it comes out much slower in the middle.

And you know, thinking in those terms, that means that my shots are probably generally underextracting, because I stop them when the outside begins to pale (and of course, if the inside started later, it's much darker and less extracted). Where I am going with that is, I think I DO need to grind finer, because the extractions I am getting aren't full and they take about 30 seconds (and they are 2.5 oz too, should be smaller). Am I making sense?

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 1:54pm
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shadowfax Said:

Jon, do use a convex tamp?

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Yes, but I have a flat tamper as well and cannot discern any difference in results.

Have you tried a slightly smaller dose?  I think if you have a little extra headspace you won't have the problem of screen interference causing uneven extraction in the center.  

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Where's Noll?

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I have been wondering that myself....

 
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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 2:07pm
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shadowfax Said:

very impressive.

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Thanks, likewise. BTW, the yum was meant for you!

shadowfax Said:

Jon, do use a convex tamp? I have noticed my shower screen impressions are pretty curved on my pucks (big surprise, with a convex screen), and I wonder if a convext tamp might be better for my extractions. My thinking is that, with my flat tamp, the coffee is having room to expand along the edges, but not in the center, and so it comes out much slower in the middle.

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Not directed at me but... I'd guess a convex tamp would be desirable with a convex shower screen. I've tried a friend's convex tamp once or twice, and it didn't make much difference in my pours. But I have a flat shower screen (and only pulled a couple of shots with it).

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And you know, thinking in those terms, that means that my shots are probably generally underextracting, because I stop them when the outside begins to pale (and of course, if the inside started later, it's much darker and less extracted). Where I am going with that is, I think I DO need to grind finer, because the extractions I am getting aren't full and they take about 30 seconds (and they are 2.5 oz too, should be smaller). Am I making sense?

Posted June 10, 2005 link

Sure. I just pulled my first triple in several days using freshly roasted beans, and of course my grind was off, but in the other direction (too fine). Delayed onset, longer flow than usual, and early blonding (starting around 1.5-2oz). Not one of my best but y'know, still very drinkable. A couple of frames follow...

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Where's Noll?

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Good question!

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 2:08pm
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This frame was kinda cool:

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 2:09pm
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This one too:

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 2:11pm
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Here's how it looked in the shot glass. Some of the crema had dissipated because of the longish pour.

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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005, 3:27pm
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Here's one taken in a mirror. (Thanks to Cajun_brew for the hint.)

I'm diggin' that mirror pic RapidCoffee


I  can't wait to break out the mirror and take more pics, but work has been  brutal and I've only time to pull the shots and drink lately.

I'll be back----------------I've found I like the double for straight shots and Americano(sweeter) and triple for milk drinks.

 
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