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pravspresso
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Posted Sat Aug 2, 2008, 2:14pm
Subject: Starting Espresso shop- test beds.
 

Just wanted to share some interesting test results.

I brought a basic machine into work and was able to pump out a latte every 5min.
I usually had about 5 regulars during lunchtime of course in the kitchen..just had them swing 2 dollars.

Anyway..everyone loved the stuff...basic blends from home ...

Then i got a nespresso machine..and put instructions out ..no steamer on the unit just a milk frother for them.

Had them swing 2 dollars as well.... i used ristretto capsules.

Turns out...nobody could tell the difference between superior quality drinks which a lot of people were buying at outside

shops for $5-15 per drink.

Starbucks switched to Auto machines which suck..but they are still moving along well.

I think the Auto. idea is the way to go in the western world.

Just pump them out..and be on your way people.

;)

what do you guys think?

ps. the two espresso shops near us have people behind the counter who are clueless.
     I've tried there stuff and it's probably worse if not the same as the nespresso stuff using a manual frother for milk
     instead of the steamer "which they don't know how to use properly".
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Posted Sat Aug 2, 2008, 2:43pm
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pravspresso Said:

Turns out...nobody could tell the difference between superior quality drinks which a lot of people were buying at outside

Posted August 2, 2008 link

I fed my dogs a NY steak once.  Then I gave them chuck.  It was amazing, they liked both!  
SO now, I feed the dogs the chuck and I eat the strip, and they don't even know.
Just because the dogs are happy with chuck doesn't mean that's all I want to buy anymore.
If I'm coming into your shop and seeing a super-auto, I'm prolly not even gonna slow down.
If you're in it for the money, get a cheapo nespresso and churn out cheapo sugar drinksand make a mint.  If you're in it for the coffee, call me, and tell me where the shop is opening...

 
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Posted Sat Aug 2, 2008, 3:27pm
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Don't think it'll fly these days, Prav.
You only have to go a couple of weeks back, when we all witnessed what happened to Starbucks shops. Going auto and super-auto and competing with likes of discounted coffee drinks from McCaffees of the world was one of the main contributors to their decision to close down some 600 of them, and decomission close to 1000 machines. I wouldn't be surprised if they start a new line of boutique coffee shops alongside their standard line, where the emphasis is put (again) to the quality of the bean, barista and coffee prep. Of course this will most definitely mean going back to semi-autos.
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Posted Sat Aug 2, 2008, 4:22pm
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LOL.

Don't get me wrong i'm on the side of superior quality.

I was just suprised watching people "lap it up" ;).

I've been asked why i don't drink the shots.

I just say..."this is a 3 out 10 in my books but for you this is a 8 out of 10".

My intention is to go the extra mile for customers....use organic milk with a multitude of

choices for espresso..Kona is going to be #1 on the list.

I'm not in it for the money.

I'm just waiting for my bills to be paid and then i'm off!..

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Posted Sun Aug 3, 2008, 11:05am
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pravspresso Said:

Don't get me wrong i'm on the side of superior quality.

My intention is to go the extra mile for customers....use organic milk with a multitude of

choices for espresso..Kona is going to be #1 on the list.

I'm not in it for the money.

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Let me know when you get going.  I need an excuse to go to Toronto...  ; >

 
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