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Posted Wed Feb 1, 2012, 1:23pm
Subject: My impression of VST/Pullman Tamper
 

So recently i got the VST/Pullman Tamper straight from VST.  They had a sale but when you add up shipping, it is still quite expensive.

First impression is that it is lighter than i thought it would be.  Espro still heaviest then comes my Reg and Pullman is the lightest of them all.  The base is really nicely polished, not as thick tho.  It fits pretty well in the VST basket, so tight that it's hard to twist and polish my puck.  Only thing i dont like is that the rubber pad on top of the base is totally a dust magnet.  No matter how much you wash it, there will always be dust on that

It is nice but I dont think i would pay that price to get another one in the future.  Reg would do me enough being a bit less expensive
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Posted Wed Feb 1, 2012, 2:57pm
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bure82 Said:

...  It fits pretty well in the VST basket, so tight that it's hard to twist and polish my puck.

Posted February 1, 2012 link

We can file that under:
"Doctor. It hurts when I do this.."
"So don't do that."
No reason to polish after tamping. Does no good at all. Can damage puck which is bad.

You should stop now.. even BEFORE you need glasses!  ;-)

 
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Posted Thu Feb 2, 2012, 4:48am
Subject: Re: My impression of VST/Pullman Tamper
 

The mantra I adhere to is just like the one that Scotty Callaghan uses, as illustrated in this clip Click Here (www.youtube.com)

Heather Perry also does a very light polish but I think the key here is consistency and what the end product tastes to you.
 
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Posted Thu Feb 2, 2012, 6:26am
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So because Scotty bangs his PF 4 times to clean it, do you too?
Because Scotty plays that funky music, is that mandatory?
All I am saying is do what works for you. For the most part, I would say that mucking with the puck more than need is not a positive thing. If "polishing" works for you, by all means do it but it will not really make much of a difference in the cup if any, in a comp, there is a lot of showmanship involved that is not mandatory to good coffee making.

 
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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012, 4:27am
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If the fines in my basket are really feisty I might bang it more than 4 times and I donít know if you consider Stairway to Heaven funky but I find it goes nicely with espresso.

FYI, in case you didnít get it by now Iím joking.  I donít bang my basket and I didnít learn squat from Scotty as I was doing ~ the same routine for the last year but as you so eloquently put it ďdo what works for you.Ē
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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012, 4:59am
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frcn Said:

No reason to polish after tamping. Does no good at all. Can damage puck which is bad.

Posted February 1, 2012 link

Don't take other people's word for it. Buy a bottomless PF then polish, nutate, thump, distribute to you hearts content. I suggest you do it all.

The only way to find out what works is to first find out what doesn't.

You're not cutting a diamond here, it's just coffee.
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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012, 7:03am
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i do a light polish so i dont think it's going to damage the puck all that much and ya i know it wont really improve my shot
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:42pm
Subject: Re: My impression of VST/Pullman Tamper
 

bure82 Said:

So recently i got the VST/Pullman Tamper straight from VST.  They had a sale but when you add up shipping, it is still quite expensive.

First impression is that it is lighter than i thought it would be.  Espro still heaviest then comes my Reg and Pullman is the lightest of them all.  The base is really nicely polished, not as thick tho.  It fits pretty well in the VST basket, so tight that it's hard to twist and polish my puck.  Only thing i dont like is that the rubber pad on top of the base is totally a dust magnet.  No matter how much you wash it, there will always be dust on that

It is nice but I dont think i would pay that price to get another one in the future.  Reg would do me enough being a bit less expensive

Posted February 1, 2012 link

bit late to the party here sorry... Re the weight, it's definitely lighter, by design. You may or may not have noticed it's also balanced. Both were criteria for the high-volume, high-precision commercial work it's designed for, as the beta testers found this was more comfortable and reduced wrist strain in high volume work, particularly for those who like to invert the tamper and bang the portafilter with the top of the tamper. It's cheap and easy to make a bottom-heavy tamper because stainless steel (popular for bases) is heavier than aluminium or wood (popular for handles), so most manufacturers take that option. To get it light and balanced while still retaining those materials was no mean feat and means a heap more machining than in most other tampers. That's one reason it costs more.

At the end of the day each individual is different so one product won't suit everyone. Nor am I saying that bottom-heavy automatically means cheap and nasty, I'm not. But don't be under any misconceptions there's anything intrinsically inferior about this tamper just because it's designed to be balanced and lighter. It's been designed to a demanding specification to suit the top end of the market, with minimal consideration given to the cost required to meet that spec.

Greg
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Posted Fri Feb 24, 2012, 1:42pm
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I had a cheapy tamper that fits so well I really got lucky and saved some $$.  I like it, but man I hate how it clings to the fines no matter how hard I hit it and I usually have to sweep it loose with a finger.  Nothing in this world comes without a tradeoff.
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