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Posted Tue Apr 2, 2013, 1:35pm
Subject: Backflusing : What Product ?
 

I searched and only found old posts which may not have the latest info. Can someone suggest a  backflush solution for my Cuadra? I need to order this but have no idea if it matter which one I buy.

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Posted Tue Apr 2, 2013, 2:32pm
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I just bought one and Im going to use Ascaso home descaler and their back flush product.

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Posted Tue Apr 2, 2013, 2:39pm
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Thank you sir :)
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Posted Wed Apr 3, 2013, 9:35am
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Yeah, there are lots of products.  Each of the major vendors (the ones you see referenced here over and over again) sells a different brand product.  I think a couple of the more popular ones are Cafitza (the one I use) and Joe-Glo.  You want a cleanser, not a descaler to backflush.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:02am
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I've used both Cafiza and Joe-Glo - pretty much a toss up for me. I get whichever one's on sale.

They're both great for any kind of coffee clean up, though. The Thermos my wife takes to work had turned a deep, rich coffee brown on the inside. a teaspoon of Cafiza, some water just off the boil,  close it, sheke it every once in a while while letting it soak for an hour of so, rinse thoroughly, and it looks brand new. Same with coffee carafes, stained mugs, etc.
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Posted Thu Apr 4, 2013, 1:56pm
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Steve,

Make sure you're not using DESCALER, to BACKFLUSH.

Descaler goes in the water tank.  BAckflush Detergent goes in the blind filter in the portafilter.  Two completey sperate things.  One cleans scale from inside the boiler, one removes coffee oils from the innards of the brew group.

 
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Posted Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:49am
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Thanks Jeff

Ive been back flushing and descaling my Classic for years, realizing the difference in products used for each task,but thank you... good watching out bro. You may have got misled by my comment above where I said I was going to use the Ascaso Descaler and
their back flush proiduct which I ordered,which is different. I am not even going to use the other stuff I have. Im going strictly with what 1st-Line recommends although they said I could finish up what I had, so from in water reservoir softener to pitcher water thats been treated with the BILT Oscsar 150. I think 1s-Line is into the right water and more regular descaling depending on use frequency to be proactive. So they for this machine like the Ascaso
descaler and Ascaso back flush products. So testing the water and using water with just enough minerals to let the auto refill function work while cutting down GH ( general hardness) I hope to prolong the life of the machine. I read Jim Schulmans in depth water review...Loved it actually. Of all the things I own I use them hard but I also take are of them. I simply love this espresso machine and it isnt even remotely cose to the Gaggia Classic,even though im fond of my old machine. I wish I would have done this a few years ago.

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Steve,

Make sure you're not using DESCALER, to BACKFLUSH.

Descaler goes in the water tank.  BAckflush Detergent goes in the blind filter in the portafilter.  Two completey sperate things.  One cleans scale from inside the boiler, one removes coffee oils from the innards of the brew group.

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Posted Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:28pm
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I use Cafiza for backflushing, and Dezcal for descaling. Cafiza rocks, other uses for it to clean grime. If you really want to see how good it works take your baskets, scoop, screen, whatever... I put a half teaspoon or so in a plastic tub and then pour in boiling water, let the stuff sit and everything comes out shiny, no grime, no oils etc. I usually do a clean backflush like every other day, and then once a month do a thorough cleaning with Cafiza.
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Posted Sun Apr 7, 2013, 8:03pm
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Steve,

I had a brain fart there.. I know you just got the new E61, and totally forgot the Classic needed backflushing too, so I was thinking you were new to backflushing..




Iluvdabean Said:

T I wish I would have done this a few years ago.

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I know you loved the Gaggia.. everytime upgrading came up, you always said, "yeah, but really man, this Gaggia does everything I need, I dont need anymore than this"..  And I kept thinking to myself, "man, I hope one day he DOES upgrade and see the difference".  I had a Classic for a while, as a second machine.. It MORE then capable, but not even close to a prosumer machine.  With all the experience you have, cutting your teeth on the Classic, you should be in espresso heaven with the Cuadra right now!

 
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:39am
Subject: Re: Backflusing : What Product ?
 

Yes I am in heaven and I cant beleive the quality of espresso and steam. I was doing fresh Black Cat all weekend and have Verve on the way. Steam.....I now know what they mean about micro foam. Yes as much as the Gaggia is a stable work horse it cant come close. It really does make the journey better and easier.

Jmanespresso Said:

Steve,

I had a brain fart there.. I know you just got the new E61, and totally forgot the Classic needed backflushing too, so I was thinking you were new to backflushing..







I know you loved the Gaggia.. everytime upgrading came up, you always said, "yeah, but really man, this Gaggia does everything I need, I dont need anymore than this"..  And I kept thinking to myself, "man, I hope one day he DOES upgrade and see the difference".  I had a Classic for a while, as a second machine.. It MORE then capable, but not even close to a prosumer machine.  With all the experience you have, cutting your teeth on the Classic, you should be in espresso heaven with the Cuadra right now!

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