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TGiordano
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 9:34am
Subject: Worth the Trade?
 

I have someone that may be willing to swap a perfectly working 2006 iMac for a Viva Reneka 2 Group. They say that the machine's control buttons are not working and believe that it's the flat cable, inside, that's the problem. They say that the service person that they had out is unable to get the part and why they willing to let the machine go so cheap. It's also been sitting for over a year. Other than that they say that it was completely "overhauled" two years ago, whatever that means.

I found the part and it's about $25. Of course the mystery is, is that all? Wouldn't know until that part's replaced.

I currently have a Nemox Cafe' Del Opera that I've out-grown and ready to step it up a notch, but don't have the complete funds to do so. My plan was to trade the iMac (that I no longer have a use for) for this machine, fix it, sell it and put that towards a better machine. I'd keep it, but it would never fit in my small kitchen.

What's it worth in working condition?
What's it worth in non-working condition?

Thanks for any advice.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:12am
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

If the swap is in your best interest, then buy the part and offer to give it to them if they can prove that that is teh only problem. otherwise, check teh price of replacement electronics before deciding on the trade. Some proprietary control units are frighteningly expensive.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:22am
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

frcn Said:

If the swap is in your best interest, then buy the part and offer to give it to them if they can prove that that is teh only problem. otherwise, check teh price of replacement electronics before deciding on the trade. Some proprietary control units are frighteningly expensive.

Posted November 25, 2013 link

Second that, the non functional aux computer board for my M32 lists at $1K and there is no other place to get it. SOOOOOO I am operating the machine without it. It provides functions like trouble shooting and auto on/off timer functions etc, nothing that is mandatory to the machines operation.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:41am
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

Thanks, that helps a lot. The only thing that would stink, is if the machine worked in front of them at such an easy fix, of course I'm hoping for the best, but oh the guilt I'd have driving away with a fully functional machine... maybe not. I'll hit them up with that offer if they agree beforehand to swap the computer for it.

This cable controls all the functions for brewing, so unfortunately there's no work around.

What would this machine be worth fully functioning, realistically?

 
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:54am
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

An operational 2 gp used machine in reasonable appearance, about $1K up at a retail setting. Multi group machines are not as easy to place in a home so the demand is mostly for commercial use.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:57am
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from what I have dealt with myself if the control buttons are replaced and the control buttons still aren't working that it could be the control box.  For the "Viva Reneka" your referring to the control box starts at $300 USD.  I'd also see find out where the machine was stored.  If stored in cold temp the seals on the HX tubes could have cracked making the machine junk.
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:16pm
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

cal blacksmith, thanks, got it.

Burner0000, I wouldn't be replacing the buttons as they run $450 for one side and $200 for the other and the chances of both going at the same time.? I would be only replacing what the repairman said it could be, the flat cable that connects to the buttons. This happens to be one of the cheapest parts @ $25. It would hurt too much if I blew that, but a control box, yep $305, would hurt.

I believe it's been stored inside, but I'll ask either way.

What's considered "cold"? The coldest it gets here is only about 40 F. How could I check the seals just in case? "HX tubes"?

 
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:21pm
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

TGiordano Said:

cal blacksmith, thanks, got it.

Burner0000, I wouldn't be replacing the buttons as they run $450 for one side and $200 for the other and the chances of both going at the same time.? I would be only replacing what the repairman said it could be, the flat cable that connects to the buttons. This happens to be one of the cheapest parts @ $25. It would hurt too much if I blew that, but a control box, yep $305, would hurt.

I believe it's been stored inside, but I'll ask either way.

What's considered "cold"? The coldest it gets here is only about 40 F. How could I check the seals just in case? "HX tubes"?

Posted November 25, 2013 link

Below 0'C which in your case would be 32'F.  I think I may be able to find the buttons for much cheaper as well as other parts.  Can you post the exact model of the machine?
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:28pm
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

Viva Reneka II/650 is all I currently have.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 25, 2013, 1:00pm
Subject: Re: Worth the Trade?
 

Take a look at these and see which match the machine your looking to trade.

I do see the one 5 button panel for $447 although I see other part separate to that which are a lot cheaper.  If the dimensions are the same as well as the buttons and plugs you could get a slightly different panel for a fraction of the price.  I'd contact these guys and see what they say.
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