Judge Senior Member Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 138 Location: Montreal Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Mon Sep 1, 2008, 8:28am Subject: Re: Fresh Meat! The new Baratza Vario...
You all better understand one thing!! I have a virtuoso grinder, its good not great and it clogs up on fine oily grinds. But I am happy with it. I roast my own coffee and I have actually missed a stone in a batch. Understand this if you miss one stone. Just ONE! ceramic grinders will shatter! So if you want to take that chance, well go for it! I have no doubt this will be awesome set of burrs but, a big BUTT check everything you stick in it. An I am sure it will clog like my virtuoso. A great grinder for drip and such but lousy for very, very fine due to chute issues, with oily coffee. Ceramic is the hardest next to diamond! Also will shatter not go dull! Do they give shatter protection?
raisin Senior Member Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 73 Location: nj Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Virtuosa Roaster: Behmor
Posted Mon Sep 1, 2008, 7:16pm Subject: Re: Fresh Meat! The new Baratza Vario...
Judge Said:
You all better understand one thing!! I have a virtuoso grinder, its good not great and it clogs up on fine oily grinds. But I am happy with it. I roast my own coffee and I have actually missed a stone in a batch. Understand this if you miss one stone. Just ONE! ceramic grinders will shatter! So if you want to take that chance, well go for it! I have no doubt this will be awesome set of burrs but, a big BUTT check everything you stick in it. An I am sure it will clog like my virtuoso. A great grinder for drip and such but lousy for very, very fine due to chute issues, with oily coffee. Ceramic is the hardest next to diamond! Also will shatter not go dull! Do they give shatter protection?
F451 Senior Member Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 56 Location: Southern California Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: la Pavoni Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Drip: Moccamaster CD Thermo, Bodum...
Posted Mon Sep 1, 2008, 7:50pm Subject: Re: Fresh Meat! The new Baratza Vario...
Judge Said:
You all better understand one thing!! I have a virtuoso grinder, its good not great and it clogs up on fine oily grinds. But I am happy with it. I roast my own coffee and I have actually missed a stone in a batch. Understand this if you miss one stone. Just ONE! ceramic grinders will shatter! So if you want to take that chance, well go for it! I have no doubt this will be awesome set of burrs but, a big BUTT check everything you stick in it. An I am sure it will clog like my virtuoso. A great grinder for drip and such but lousy for very, very fine due to chute issues, with oily coffee. Ceramic is the hardest next to diamond! Also will shatter not go dull! Do they give shatter protection?
There are some distinct differences between the heads of the Virtuoso and the new Vario as shown by the cutting heads. The burr blade angles are completely different. They appear to have been designed with just what you state in mind. Also, and owed to the undisclosed specifications that Baratza chose for the burr heads here is an interesting read on ceramic cutting tools: Cutting Tool Basics. There is no doubt that Baratza will include a warning about other objects being ground in the Vario other than coffee beans as being detrimental to the burrs, but they also look to have accommodated for such as mishap with the design of the burrs.
The Virtuoso burr photograph is directly from Baratza's web site where replacement parts are for sale; the others from CoffeeGeek in an article by Mark Prince (I do not know whether he was the photographer) as they are excellent photographs of the burr assembly.
Posted Fri Oct 17, 2008, 10:27am Subject: Re: Fresh Meat! The new Baratza Vario...
I have a price estimate for Europe - EUR 360.00. Not inexpensive, should be in the USD 500.00 range for you US-folks. However I am going to order one...
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