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Pfunk
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Posted Wed Mar 4, 2009, 6:22pm
Subject: Macap and fine grinding
 

I recently purchased a Macap M4 grinder mostly for drip/french/vacuum but also for occassional turkish brewing.  I have been having some issues with grinding at the fine end of the scale though and I don't know if this is typical or not.

My zero point on the scale is 3.5 and I go to around 8, 9 for most brewing.  When I try to grind around 4 for turkish though the beans/grinds just roll around and don't get drawn in to the burrs.  I have to go a little past 5 before they are pulled into the burrs.  The fact that I add just enough beans to the hopper for what I'm brewing instead of keeping it full could be preventing them from being forced down I guess.

Is this normal?
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Espresso: Quick Mill Andreja Premium
Grinder: Baratza W, MACAP M4
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Posted Thu Mar 5, 2009, 8:21am
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That sounds odd.  The zero point on my M4 is about .7 and I've ground at one stop lower the 2.  It may go lower for all I know.  After loading the beans, you might try removing the hopper and putting your tamper on top of the beans.  I hold the tamper just above the beans until it comes to rest.  Others let it weigh down the beans.

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Posted Thu Mar 5, 2009, 8:42am
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It depends on where you are reading the numbers. When I had a stepless M4 I read the settings centered on the worm adjuster & my settings were similar to curtrowe. The M4 is a lousy french press grinder if you want a true coarse grind without a lot of fines but should do a nice turkish grind. The espresso sweet spot on the M4 is around 1.5 higher then zero point so start there & work down.

 
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Pfunk
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Posted Sat Mar 7, 2009, 3:29pm
Subject: Re: Macap and fine grinding
 

Actually I don't find it to be a bad french press grinder.  I don't get any more sediment than any other grinder I've ever used.

As for the turkish grind, I've found that I usually don't have problems starting out a little over 1 step higher than the zero point.  It grinds fine and works but isn't totally powderized.  One thing I tried was grinding a little higher and then running the grounds back through the grinder again at a very fine setting.  It worked but it was messy and left a lot of gummed residue on the burrs.

I haven't tried putting weight on top because I don't have a tamper (don't have an espresso machine anymore) and haven't found a substitute yet.
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