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KingTermite
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 9:06am
Subject: Baratza Vario or other for new grinder?
 

OK.....finally getting some money coming in and able to get a new grinder. I've been using a Capresso Infinity for about 3 or 4 years.

OK....I'm not a "big" espresso man, I normally do French Press. But I do make espresso occasionally and even Turkish once in a blue moon.

I've had my eye on the Baratza Vario, and I think it will be up to this job, but I haven't quite seen enough people talking about it to know for sure. Do you think it will be a good grinder or what other grinders should I consider in the same price range? Rocky?
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 9:14am
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Check the Vario owner's thread.  

"The Baratza Vario Grinder Owner's Thread"

It will get you the info you want.

Short answer, yes the Vario will be a great choice for you. I would say far superior to the Rocky.  I had the Rocky and now a Mini and the Vario and the Vario is what I use all the time now.
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 9:37am
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Here's a good thread from over at HB on how owners of the Vario are faring.

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 11:19am
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ziemas Said:

Here's a good thread from over at HB on how owners of the Vario are faring.

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

Posted October 5, 2009 link

Great....good thread and good info. Thanks.


This is the same Ziemas over on bikeforums isn't it? :)
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 11:20am
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KingTermite Said:

Great....good thread and good info. Thanks.


This is the same Ziemas over on bikeforums isn't it? :)

Posted October 5, 2009 link

Yep, the same.  I guess we share some of the same interests.   :)
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 11:37am
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ziemas Said:

Yep, the same.  I guess we share some of the same interests.   :)

Posted October 5, 2009 link

And Mill Creek too.....he's over here, but a different user name.
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 12:21pm
Subject: Re: Baratza Vario or other for new grinder?
 

As was pointed out in the thread just below yours (as I write this), entitled "Can a good grinder for espresso also grind drip without much difficulty?", this question has been asked many times before, and the basic answer is that grinders are at their best when they are used for what they are intended.  That is, espresso grinders are best when used to grind coffee beans for espresso; "regular" grinders are better when grinding for drip, siphon, or press.

See:
This is why there is so much discussion about the Baratza Vario -- so far, it is the one grinder that seems to do BOTH tasks quite well.
And these threads are only from here, coffeegeek.com . . . over on Home-Barista, there are ALSO dozens.

Cheers,
Jason

 
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 12:36pm
Subject: Re: Baratza Vario or other for new grinder?
 

JasonBrandtLewis Said:

This is why there is so much discussion about the Baratza Vario -- so far, it is the one grinder that seems to do BOTH tasks quite well.
Cheers,
Jason

Posted October 5, 2009 link

Thanks Jason. I had already believed the Vario probably did both well as I have heard much good already. I just hadn't kept up in a while (few months) and wanted to make sure that the Vario was still considered to have a good range and that I wasn't overlooking another good grinder that may suit my task better.

As I mentioned, it would be used for press most of the time.

Here's my likely breakdown:
French Press = 85%
Espresso = 13%
Turkish = 1%
Other/Experimental = 1%


So, surely French Press would be my primary interest.
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Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 3:40pm
Subject: Re: Baratza Vario or other for new grinder?
 

Taking the Vario out of the picture, the best way to grind for multiple brewing methods.. Is having a dedicated espresso grinder, stepless preffered, and a stepped grinder for your other brewing needs.  A popular option is the Baratza Grinders, as well as your Capresso Infinity, and then your espresso grinder(mazzer, macap, compak, etc etc)

Add the Vario back into the picture, and you've got one, SMALL SIZED grinder to do all your jobs well.

So you're looking at two options...

Keep the infinity, and get a dedicated espresso grinder.. The Compka K3 Touch is close to the price of a vario

-OR-

Get the Vario for everything.

Id suggest getting the vario.. and its been pretty equal to the superjolly shot wise, and seems to handle the brewing grinds well also.  Overall, the Vario seems to be a heck of a grinder for a great price.

 
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Roaster: Behmor 3000
Posted Mon Oct 5, 2009, 3:50pm
Subject: Re: Baratza Vario or other for new grinder?
 

Jmanespresso Said:

Taking the Vario out of the picture, the best way to grind for multiple brewing methods.. Is having a dedicated espresso grinder, stepless preffered, and a stepped grinder for your other brewing needs.  A popular option is the Baratza Grinders, as well as your Capresso Infinity, and then your espresso grinder(mazzer, macap, compak, etc etc)

Add the Vario back into the picture, and you've got one, SMALL SIZED grinder to do all your jobs well.

So you're looking at two options...

Keep the infinity, and get a dedicated espresso grinder.. The Compka K3 Touch is close to the price of a vario

-OR-

Get the Vario for everything.

Id suggest getting the vario.. and its been pretty equal to the superjolly shot wise, and seems to handle the brewing grinds well also.  Overall, the Vario seems to be a heck of a grinder for a great price.

Posted October 5, 2009 link

Part of what is making this decision happen now (other than money coming in) is that my Capresso is dying. I have a few issues which would probably require new parts to fix. So, I'm thinking its not worth it and wanting an "all-in-one".
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