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catasyne
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
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Posted Sat Jan 15, 2011, 1:44pm
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I just returned my barista breville express I got for christmas cause I couldn't get it to work right. After discovering this place I can it apparently wasn't a very good machine. After researching this and other websites, I ordered a gaggia classic to replace it and I am thinking of going for the Rocky for the grinder. I was going to get the gaggia MDF since that would be within the 600 dollar limit that I got back for returning the breville. But I kept thinking, the rocky is only $150 more... of course, the vario is only 130 more than that... but then the mazzer mini is only... but I had to stop myself and decided I would probably get the Rocky. Getting ready to order it now from whole latte love. Does this sound like a good setup? I am also considering the Tranquillo or LeLit PL53, would those be better?

with my breville I've mostly been drinking lattes but with better machines I would be drinking more straight espresso shots. I would mostly just drink one or two double shots in the morning and another one or two after work, maybe more on the weekend. The Rocky + Gaggia Classic is pretty much the most I can afford.

Thanks for all you do guys!  :)
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Posted Sat Jan 15, 2011, 3:13pm
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catasyne Said:

I was going to get the gaggia MDF since that would be within the 600 dollar limit that I got back for returning the breville. But I kept thinking, the rocky is only $150 more...

Posted January 15, 2011 link

???

Gaggia MDF = $179.00

Rancilio Rocky = $359.00

Hmmmmm . . . looks like $180 to me . . . not that the extra $30 is a HUGE amount, but --

Cunill Tranquilo = $235.00

My choices:

  1. Tranquilo
  2. MDF (and save for an eventual upgrade)
  3. Rocky (you'll need to save for an upgrade)

 
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ryguy
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Espresso: Bezzera BZ02S
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Posted Mon Jan 17, 2011, 8:09pm
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Or go for the Mini Pro III or PL53. They're both stepless which is a very good feature for espresso that neither the Rocky nor the MDF offer.

 
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mary12b
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Posted Wed Jan 19, 2011, 2:11am
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Looks like that sound more interesting to me... I suggest you should use it for good!
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tys
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 11:15am
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ryguy Said:

Or go for the Mini Pro III or PL53. They're both stepless which is a very good feature for espresso that neither the Rocky nor the MDF offer.

Posted January 17, 2011 link

Hi,
I've been considering the PL 53, but understand that adjusting the grind settings is a very tedious process.
How does the MiniPro III compare? Could I switch between espresso grind and moka pot grind without too much hassle?
Thanks,
tys
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 11:27am
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Don't forget the stepless mod for the MDF is extremely easy to do and is fully reversable...
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ryguy
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Espresso: Bezzera BZ02S
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 12:22pm
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tys Said:

Hi,
I've been considering the PL 53, but understand that adjusting the grind settings is a very tedious process.
How does the MiniPro III compare? Could I switch between espresso grind and moka pot grind without too much hassle?
Thanks,
tys

Posted January 20, 2011 link

Adjusting the grind from espresso to a coarse grind like a press pot would be tedious. I'm not sure what kind of grind moka pots take. Stepless grinders are designed for espresso-only use.

The PL53 and Mini Pro III are nearly identical.

 
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tys
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 12:33pm
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ryguy Said:

Adjusting the grind from espresso to a coarse grind like a press pot would be tedious. I'm not sure what kind of grind moka pots take. Stepless grinders are designed for espresso-only use.

The PL53 and Mini Pro III are nearly identical.

Posted January 20, 2011 link

I'm told that Moka is about halfway between espresso grind and drip grind.
So far I've only used pre-ground stuff, so I have no idea how big a difference that is in grinder settings.
The Vanelis site says the Mini Pro III is suitable for any grind, while 1st-line definitely recommends the PL53 for Espresso only. I wonder if the machines are different in terms of adjustability or these are just differences in what folks consider acceptable?

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ryguy
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Espresso: Bezzera BZ02S
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Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 5:31pm
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tys Said:

I wonder if the machines are different in terms of adjustability or these are just differences in what folks consider acceptable?

Posted January 20, 2011 link

Probably the latter. They have the same burr set, and I assume they have the same gearing for the worm drive adjustment, although that may well be a faulty assumption.

That grinder can probably do well for moka pot, but it will be difficult to keep track of the number of turns you've used to go from one to the other, and you'll need to keep track in order not to lose your espresso setting. If you do lose it, you have to dial it in again...

 
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catasyne
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: LetLit PL53, Capresso...
Posted Thu Jan 20, 2011, 6:10pm
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Thanks guys! I decided to go with the PL53 :) They are out of stock at 1st-line so I backordered it, should be here in a couple of weeks. My Gaggia Classic came yesterday, after only three days! Right now it's very pretty to look at but can't do anything yet without the grinder. Oh well, the wait will make the espresso taste that much sweeter :)
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