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Posted Fri May 20, 2011, 2:26pm
Subject: Is it me or are these directions backwards?
 

I know my brain wasn't fully engaged when I set out to adjust my grinder for a new batch of beans this morning. I know I should have become suspicious after my fourth unsuccessful attempt at drawing water through the puck.  And I should have known something was wrong after the eight attempt.  But like I said, my brain wasn't fully engaged...

On the plus side, I wasn't very happy with that roast. And most of it was gone by the time I realized my mistake.

But let's try a little test. Given the settings A and B shown in the photo, will B result in a coarser or a finer grind than A?

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Posted Fri May 20, 2011, 3:10pm
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For my Mazzer, turning counter clockwise makes the grind finer...so B would be finer.
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Posted Fri May 20, 2011, 5:21pm
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Agree.  Clockwise/coarser, counterclockwise/finer.

 
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Posted Sat May 21, 2011, 11:17am
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The answer to your question is "finer".

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Posted Mon May 23, 2011, 6:44am
Subject: Re: Is it me or are these directions backwards?
 

Nothing could be finer than to be in Carolina in the moooorning.... OOPS, wrong song!

Agree, CCW is more fine on my SJ and in your drawings

 
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Posted Mon May 23, 2011, 8:06am
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fnacer Said:

Is it me or are these directions backwards?

Posted May 20, 2011 link

No idea.  How did you interpret the directions?

Vivaldi Said:

For my Mazzer, turning counter clockwise makes the grind finer...so B would be finer.

Posted May 20, 2011 link

That really wasn't the question (though the illustration matches my Mazzer as well) but my answer is also finer.
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Posted Mon May 23, 2011, 8:28am
Subject: Re: Is it me or are these directions backwards?
 

It just dawned on me as to why you may have confusion.
The words and arrows tell you which way to turn the adjustment to achieve the desired result, not that the word coarse or fine line up with what you are going to get.

 
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Posted Mon May 23, 2011, 8:59am
Subject: Re: Is it me or are these directions backwards?
 

I don't own a Mazzer so the operation of a Mazzer isn't intuitive to me, and because of that, yes, I agree with the op,  the markings as shown have the potential to be confusing.

As mentioned already, it would depend on whether you think the arrows mean turn the carrier this way for coarse or whether you think it means turn the carrier to 'here' for coarse.

Hopefully our nuclear powerplants don't have dials like that!

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Posted Tue May 24, 2011, 7:07am
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Finer, same as any grinder from any brand I've used.


You know, the comments here are confusing me the more I read them!  It took me a LOT of staring at it to see the confusion that everyone else understood, much more quickly than I, which you had experienced.   They're definitely telling you which direction to turn it. Counter clockwise for finer (tightening the burrs closer), and clockwise for coarser (and to unscrew the carriage on most grinders.)
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Posted Tue May 24, 2011, 7:25pm
Subject: Re: Is it me or are these directions backwards?
 

It's interesting that so many see only one way to interpret that label, namely that the label reflects the action needed to achieve a result rather that the result itself.

Imagine that you came to single panel sliding door with a large arrow on it pointing to the right with the word "Opening" under it. The same logic that leads to the answer "B is finer" will have you sliding the door to the right which will result in the opening on the left. On the other hand, "B is coarser" will have you expecting the opening on the right and lead you to slide the door to the left.
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