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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 3:14am
Subject: Baratza Virtuoso 586 w/ updated Preciso burrs
 

It appears Baratza has updated their base Virtuoso model with the same burrs as their Preciso
Does this make the Virtuoso the best electric grinder for under $250?  Is the Preciso worth the extra $100?

SeattleCoffeeGear did a couple youtube reviews discussing the 586, and even comparing it to Breville's Smart Grinder (which it seems to have edged out in a shot vs shot comparison)

 
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:00pm
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Yup, we know! ;) Seems like a nice upgrade.

ShooterMcGavin Said:

Is the Preciso worth the extra $100?

Posted February 21, 2012 link

Only if you're planning to grind for espresso, at least IMO.
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 9:52pm
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I have this grinder, it is very consistent in terms of the grounds. There are 40 steps, and usually 10-0 is for espresso, and it definitely grinds fine enough for espresso. I would compare it to what people are saying about the Rocky: it's disadvantage is its lack of precise adjustment. But for 250 you can't really go wrong I don't think.
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:06pm
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If you look around online, you can find the 586 for $200 w/ free shipping. That's what I paid for mine and I'm pretty happy with it. Eventually I want to upgrade to a stepless, but for the time being, my budget is happy with the Virtuoso Preciso.
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 12:42am
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ideally, i think i would like to spend $200, but I have to consider if I'd be happy with a $200 grinder in the long run
i wonder how the new virtuoso compares to the gaggia mdf which used to cost ~300, the same price as the preciso...
decisions decisions... :p

 
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 5:03am
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Christopher, since you've posted this under espresso grinders I'm assuming that's your intended use?  I would absolutely say the Preciso is worth it.  The steps of the virtuoso are too large to even come close to dialing in a grind.
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 7:40am
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I forgot to mention earlier but yes, espresso grinding is my primary intended use.  I'd hate to find that the perfect setting is between two steps, so the Preciso looks like a choice I can live with in the long run.  thanks for the feedback everyone

 
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 9:54am
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STG, did you buy your Breville Dual Boiler here in Edmonton?  I've been unable to find a retailer here so far or anywhere I can try one out.  thx.

 
To breville or not to breville...that is the question.
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:42pm
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No I bought it from laruso.ca . I sent my payment almost two weeks ago now and they finally just sent it out. Not the greatest service imho.
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Posted Fri Feb 24, 2012, 4:41pm
Subject: Re: Baratza Virtuoso 586 w/ updated Preciso burrs
 

coryforsenate,

Just curious, where did you find it for $200 w/ free shipping?  I already ordered a Vario, but Virtuoso 586 seems like a really good deal.  The only issue is the lack of microadjustments, which may make dialing in grinds a little tough.  

I guess the workarounds for having a grinder with fewer steps is to alter the dose and / or tamp pressure?
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