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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 6:28pm
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Ever use a Pharos? I owned #21 for a week & it cured me of wanting a manual espresso grinder until the HG-One came along. Actual cost is $840 for the 71mm version & $850 for the 83mm, not $1000.

 
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 6:58pm
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Either way . . . .

 
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 7:10pm
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With fast-turning electric grinders, uniform rotational speed helps maintain grind uniformity. With my 83mm Robur, increasing the rpms from 400 to 500 makes the grind noticeably coarser. To compensate, one must set the adjustment collar about 1.5 fine lines finer.

It is possible that the HG One would be similarly sensitive to grind speed variation. But maybe not, because no one has reported that effect with the Pharos.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 5:56am
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andys Said:

It is possible that the HG One would be similarly sensitive to grind speed variation. But maybe not, because no one has reported that effect with the Pharos.

Posted September 30, 2012 link

That's discussed in the H-B Home Test thread: Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

 
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Posted Mon Oct 1, 2012, 7:50pm
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JVBorella Said:

That's discussed in the H-B Home Test thread: Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

Posted October 1, 2012 link

Maybe I'm not reading the same section you're reading. But all I saw was a seemingly casual observation that the grind was consistent.

 
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 7:21am
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Kind of hard to miss but this should get you started:

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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 5:19pm
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JVBorella Said:

Kind of hard to miss but this should get you started...

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Thanks, John. This is interesting, because the effect of rotational speed on espresso flow rate appears to be the opposite of what I have noticed.

 
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Posted Sat Oct 20, 2012, 6:49am
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rbh1515 Said:

Very nice.  1k is a bit high I agree.  I got a OE Pharos, which is about 1/4 the cost and like it a lot.
Rob

Posted June 22, 2012 link

I too have a Pharos and love it and it is real portable.  Got the Voodoodaddy Mod and it is a breeze to operate, just a bit slower than my Versalab M3 and a lot slower than my Kony.
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Posted Sun Jan 6, 2013, 4:31pm
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do you weigh the beans either into or grounds out of the pharos?  

thanks,

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Posted Sun Jan 6, 2013, 5:56pm
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seageral Said:

do you weigh the beans either into or grounds out of the pharos?  

thanks,

Alan

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I weigh the beans going into the Pharos as well as going into the Versalab.  With the MODs on the Pharos grounds retention is NOT an issue, there is more grounds retention in the Versalab and that is not much either.  The Kony hold about 30g of grounds in the chute and chamber.
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