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firefighter124
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Gaggia MDF
Drip: Bonavita
Posted Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:48pm
Subject: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

Noob here considering upgrading from my MDF to the Vario.
I pull a double for a latte in the morning followed by a drip grind for my to work travel cup.
When I get home in the afternoon, I'll pull another double shot or two.
This is pretty much a daily ritual with me.
My question is how well the Vario can handle switching from espresso grind to drip and back on a daily basis.
I've been reading pros and cons.
Thanks in advance for your observations and experiences...

Pete
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SteveRhinehart
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Location: Syracuse, NY
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Espresso: 1970s La Pavoni Europiccola
Grinder: Baratza Vario, Hario Skerton
Vac Pot: Yama Tabletop 3-cup
Drip: Chemex, CCD, Kalita Wave,...
Roaster: Flavorwave/Stir Crazy
Posted Wed Aug 8, 2012, 2:53pm
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I do so every day, and have not found any problems to speak of, excepting the element of human error. It's awfully inconvenient to wake up, grind your espresso, only to realize you'd hazily forgotten to change the grind setting back from yesterday's drip brew. I've had my morning cappuccino with a side of facepalm and regret a few times - just watch out for that!
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firefighter124
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Gaggia MDF
Drip: Bonavita
Posted Wed Aug 8, 2012, 6:46pm
Subject: Re: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

Thanks for the heads up Steve. I've done exactly that with the MDF; both ways! LOL
I really like the capability of the Vario.
I do not keep beans in the hopper. I grind only what I'm gonna use. I weigh the dose, usually between 14 and 15g for a double and 20 to 22g for drip.
Still doing my research. Almost there though.
thanks again...

Pete
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NobbyR
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Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
Vac Pot: N/A
Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe
Roaster: N/A
Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:25am
Subject: Re: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

The difficulty is to find your specific settings for espresso and drip again. The Vario with its macro and micro dial makes that pretty easy, when you remember their positions.

 
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firefighter124
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Gaggia MDF
Drip: Bonavita
Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 4:44pm
Subject: Re: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

I had been concerned about the grind that is left behind going from drip to espresso. It took me several times to realize that I needed to purge the drip grind out of the MDF before I ground for espresso. There were a number of pulls that were gushers because I failed to purge those grounds out of the shute. I believe the MDF was leaving close to 3g behind.
Going from espresso to drip wasn't a problem.
Is there much coffee left behind in the Vario? From what I've been reading it's not that much. Guess I won't know until I actually have one.

Pete
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 6:03pm
Subject: Re: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

You could always pull espresso for an Americano for the road, stop the drip, and leave the Vario set.  :)

 
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:32pm
Subject: Re: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

The shute of the Vario is located directly underneath the grinding gear, therefore it has very little retention.

 
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Grinder: Baratza Vario/Peugeot Bresil
Drip: CCD
Posted Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:46pm
Subject: Re: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

D4F Said:

You could always pull espresso for an Americano for the road, stop the drip, and leave the Vario set.  :)

Posted August 9, 2012 link

That is exactly what I have been doing lately.  For me, going from espresso to drip (which is good) and then back to espresso (which won't go back to) has been frustrating.  My grind ends up way too coarse when I go back to my original espresso setting.  Making Americano's has been a good solution till I get a another grinder.
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randytsuch
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Posted Fri Aug 10, 2012, 1:33pm
Subject: Re: Espresso grind to Drip then back
 

BigStormGirl Said:

That is exactly what I have been doing lately.  For me, going from espresso to drip (which is good) and then back to espresso (which won't go back to) has been frustrating.  My grind ends up way too coarse when I go back to my original espresso setting.  Making Americano's has been a good solution till I get a another grinder.

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I have to agree, I do much better if I can leave my Vario set for espresso.

Normally, I share the Vario with my MIL, she uses it for drip, I use it for espresso.  I pull my shots first, and then set it for drip grinding.  Later in the morning, she will make her coffee.

When I start, I set the Vario for espresso grind, and then run a small amount of beans through the grinder.  Even after doing this, the first shot is often times a gusher, or close to it.  Normally goes into a Cap.

When my MIL is not around (now), I just leave for espresso.  This morning first shot was a little fast, but not as bad as if the grinder had been set for drip.

By the 2nd shot, all is good unless I mess up.

BTW, I consider this a small price to pay considering how good a grind the Vario is, and that it lets you go back and forth so easily.  I would love to have two grinders, but don't have space so the Vario is the solution for me.

Randy
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