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espressodd
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Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted Mon Nov 5, 2012, 5:07am
Subject: Grinder help UK
 

Hi

I'm new to (proper) coffee and am struggling to decide on a grinder. I don't currently have a grinder and get grounds from the local deli at weekends.

I've read quite a bit on here about various budget grinders and don't want to spend too much initially. I have a cheap Delonghi EC152 machine at the moment andwill be upgrading to a Gaggia Classic, but first on the list is a decent but cheap grinder. I have been looking at the Iberital MC2 and Gaggia MDF as well as the Ascaso i-mini and eBay for a possibly used Rocky or even a Mazzer mini (although these seem to go out of my price range.

My budget is less than 150 and was thinking I might get a Porlex hand grinder in the meantime to see how I get on. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as would any info on where to get fresh roasted beans in Manchester, UK.

thanks
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NobbyR
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Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
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Posted Mon Nov 5, 2012, 5:29am
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Welcome to CoffeeGeek!

As you probably know by now, you'll really need a capable grinder, if you want to get into making good espresso at home. "The grinder is more important that the espresso machine", is one of the most recited mantras here.

Two features are of utmost significance: it must be able to grind fine enough for espresso, and it ought to have a steplessly adjustable grinding gear. Out of the grinders you mentioned only the Iberital MC2, Ascaso i-mini, and Mazzer Mini are stepless. The steps of the Gaggia MDF and the Rancilio Rocky are pretty wide, which can lead to problems when trying to dial in the grinder, because you can get stuck in between two settings, i.e. one step is too coarse and the next already too fine.

I think the Ascaso will offer the best value for money on a limited budget. It's sturdy, has a good manufacturing quality and can grind very fine. Albeit it's a bit loud.

 
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espressodd
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Posted Mon Nov 5, 2012, 9:50am
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Thanks!
The Ascaso in my price range is the I-2 lower powered plastic version which I've read mixed reviews about, what is the feeling around this machine? Will the Porlex tall hand grinder give me a good espresso grind, albeit a stepped grinder?
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dyqik
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Espresso: Bezzera BZ07 PM
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Roaster: Gene Cafe, Modded Poppers
Posted Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:08am
Subject: Re: Grinder help UK
 

My Porlex does go fine enough (with about 3 useful points of adjustment) for use with both my old Classic and my BZ07.  However, the steps are quite far apart, and it's probably not producing a true espresso grind, although it is producing tasty shots to my palate.  It's a good thing to have beside a main grinder though, for the odd decaf or special blend shot.
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Mandheling
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Posted Tue Nov 6, 2012, 4:51pm
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Hi espressodd,

I don't know Manchester very well, but I get my coffee online from HasBean (http://www.hasbean.co.uk/). They usually ship within 24 hours of roasting and deliveries come first class so should arrive the following day - their service is slick and they produce some fantastic quality beans!

As for grinders, I believe the plastic Ascaso i2 is mechanically different from the metal version and isn't recommended.

Happy Donkey list the Iberital MC2 on their site for 114 (doserless) & 122 (doser) (http://www.happydonkey.co.uk/iberital-mc2-grinders.html). Their advice is always on the money and the fact that they stock them is enough of a recommendation for me (although I've never used one myself).

You'll always be able to get more grinder for your money second hand, but if you need to factor in the cost of a grinder and some basic spare parts (new burrs etc) then you're likely to struggle to get anything significantly better within your budget.

Hope this helps!
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Posted Tue Nov 6, 2012, 5:11pm
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espressodd Said:

Thanks!
The Ascaso in my price range is the I-2 lower powered plastic version which I've read mixed reviews about, what is the feeling around this machine? Will the Porlex tall hand grinder give me a good espresso grind, albeit a stepped grinder?

Posted November 5, 2012 link

I really would avoid the I-2

Owned one for a week before it went back.

Impossible to obtain a consistent grind suitable for espresso.

Looks good, but poorly engineered.

The I-1 is a different and much better grinder, but for some reason the reviews on here merge the two as if they were the same grinder, which they most definitely are not..
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