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NobbyR
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 1:28am
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pcof Said:

is the Mahlkönig Vario W the same as bartza vario w?

Posted February 26, 2013 link

Yes, it's is. Like said before, since Mahlkönig manufactures the burrs anyway, they sell the grinder using their own brand in Europe.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:20am
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jwoodyu Said:

Likewise i run my Major on a digital dark room timer, love it, and it is at least as accurate the W. It takes up more space on the counter but not enough to motivate me to cut a smaller one into the side of my Major.

To the OP regardless of control mech I would skip the Jolly or Vario and go to a Major or K-30 or Koney or Robur or K-10 blah blah blah.

Posted February 26, 2013 link

In fairness, grind retention MUST be mentioned with these larger grinders, often as much as 8 grams. (I owned several SJ's, and the doserless mod retained a significant amount which must be purged if more than 20 minutes transpires between grinding.
Several years ago, I compared the SJ/Vario grinds and found them uncannily similar in profile, both showing the caramelly/chocolate-ish aspects more than the brighter fruits, as would a larger conical, or even a Preciso or manual grinder.
The Vario-W, grinding by weight is awesome for consistency, especially for those of us used to a smaller basket, where a gram, or even 1/2 a gram can make a difference.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:21am
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NobbyR Said:

Yes, it's is. Like said before, since Mahlkönig manufactures the burrs anyway, they sell the grinder using their own brand in Europe.

Posted March 1, 2013 link

Just be careful, in that there is another Vario with the metal burr, designed for the coarser range. make sure you're getting CERAMIC burrs.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:13am
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Ashley83 Said:

Ok so I currently have an izzo vivi espresso machine which is great, which I use with a mazzer mini. I find the grind quality fairly good, sometimes a little clumping, but what really bugs me is the doser on the front. And the fact that if I weigh 19 grams of beans I only get about 17.5g back sometimes, then on the next shot it might be 20.5g for example. Is it worth me upgrading to a mazzer mini e, vario w, or even looking out for the more expensive on demand grinders on eBay? I would also love the functionality of just pressing a button to dispense 19 grams, rather than having to weigh them each time.

Posted February 24, 2013 link

  1. Did you buy your grinder new or second hand.
  2. Has it had replacement burrs, if so who did the replacement, if it was you where did you get the burrs from

I personally don't think the Vario is a better grinder.
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