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Markarian
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Espresso: ECM Technika IV Profi WT-WC
Grinder: Baratza Forte AP, HG One
Vac Pot: Bunn Trifecta MB
Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Hario V60
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:50pm
Subject: Restored Vintage Super Jolly
 

So here are pics of my find! I bought this "Brevetto" grinder off of local CL for $120. In a former life, it was used in Seattle's Best Coffee and was badged "Illycafe" with a sticker on the back. It ran, but it ran really rough. After a thorough cleaning, pounding in a new upper bearing, throwing in some new burrs, applying a new coat of paint, a new doser return spring, and a Mazzer nameplate to top it all off...it runs whisper-quiet and good as new! I've never used a commercial grinder before, so this is definitely a change of pace. I applied the electrical tape sweeper mod and the Schnozzola before using it, so there hasn't been much of a mess. Even though the burrs are new, I've dialed it in with about 2lbs of coffee so far and have gotten some pretty decent shots. Total cost: A little under $200, not including sweat equity. Was this a decent deal?

I forgot to take "Before" pics, but the previous owner reposted their ad so I could show them off:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/for/3712950620.html

Any idea of its age?

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Markarian
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Espresso: ECM Technika IV Profi WT-WC
Grinder: Baratza Forte AP, HG One
Vac Pot: Bunn Trifecta MB
Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Hario V60
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:54pm
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Espresso: ECM Technika IV Profi WT-WC
Grinder: Baratza Forte AP, HG One
Vac Pot: Bunn Trifecta MB
Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Hario V60
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:56pm
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New nameplate fits right in the peg holes!

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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Mon Apr 1, 2013, 9:23am
Subject: Re: Restored Vintage Super Jolly
 

Conggrats, it is a lot of work to go through the grinder like you did, you should be happy now. About the tape thing.... I favor this over the tape but YMMV! http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machinemods/562237
I went through this grinder last year. It started it's second life as a well used and unloved yet abused ex coffee shop grinder. It was kind of light grey base color with lots of chips, stains etc. It was one of these but which one I don't know. http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machinemods/555826

 
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Location: San Antonio, TX
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Mazzer Major & Baratza Vario
Vac Pot: Yama Burner
Drip: Hario V60 & Chemex
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Apr 1, 2013, 6:14pm
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Wow. I need to do this with the 18 year old Major I picked up recently. It looks like hell but it runs SO well. How'd the painting process go? Any advice?
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Grinder: Baratza Forte AP, HG One
Vac Pot: Bunn Trifecta MB
Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Hario V60
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:21pm
Subject: Re: Restored Vintage Super Jolly
 

Painting it was very tough. My friend helped me mask off all the parts and we used Krylon to paint. But the weather's been cooler here lately, so we went through several coats before it stopped crinkling up. It was just as well, because the original finish was deeply gouged and pitted. My advice is to go slow and steady and make sure you don't overspray. It's so easy to put too much on and have it running down the sides.
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Tue Apr 2, 2013, 4:10am
Subject: Re: Restored Vintage Super Jolly
 

To refinish, disassemble the Doser, knobs, cord, fork etc then sand the old finish to remove all scratches etc. Once it is smooth then mask off the motor and grind chamber and prime the whole grinder then sand again to smooth the surface of the paint. If all the old marks are gone spray at least two coats of color sanding with fine (400 grit) between coats then reassemble. This would be a great time to replace any parts that are suspect and do the CBSJ mod to the Doser.

 
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Mazzer Major & Baratza Vario
Vac Pot: Yama Burner
Drip: Hario V60 & Chemex
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Thu Apr 4, 2013, 6:48pm
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calblacksmith Said:

To refinish, disassemble the Doser, knobs, cord, fork etc then sand the old finish to remove all scratches etc. Once it is smooth then mask off the motor and grind chamber and prime the whole grinder then sand again to smooth the surface of the paint. If all the old marks are gone spray at least two coats of color sanding with fine (400 grit) between coats then reassemble. This would be a great time to replace any parts that are suspect and do the CBSJ mod to the Doser.

Posted April 2, 2013 link

What did you do for the side vents?

I almost want to gut it and just have it powdercoated but I understand the entire assembly would need to be blasted in the oven to do so?

I also have a minor issue where my knob (it's an older one so it's only on/off) isn't very responsive anymore--it might shut off instantly or in five seconds or not at all (in which case I flip it back and forth again). This is minor since I weigh my dose but I'm considering swapping the switch for something easier on my wrist than that wicked old knob or putting a timer on. I always look at that massive hopper and think I'll put it on and use it one day..

Edit: I just looked at both of your Jollies and it looks like they don't have side vents like my major. There's a big fan under the burrs on my grinder and I guess that's for the air exchange. Thoughts?
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Sat Apr 6, 2013, 7:58pm
Subject: Re: Restored Vintage Super Jolly
 

Your right in that the SJ does not have vents. However I have painted Majors also, with those I just angle the spray gun so that I  don't spray directly into them.
You are also right that powder coat requires baking to fuse the coat. There is a way to remove the motor but I have not had the need to do so. I have a hard doam plug that fits into the grind chamber. I tape off the exposed motor where the Doser fits. The switch, forks, Doser etc are removed and all holes are taped over from the inside. I also remove the Mazzer badge if it is still on the grinder. You can get away with this once and just possibly twice by straightening the pins from the inside. The badge is held into the grinder by two pins that are part of the badge. They are fragile and easily broken so be careful.

 
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Grinder: Compak K10 - Vario
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Drip: V60, Beehouse, CCD
Roaster: Hottop B
Posted Sun Apr 7, 2013, 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Restored Vintage Super Jolly
 

Well, once you remove the doser, you expose the whole inner chamber.  Its simple to just stuff some newspaper inside the sides of the grinder.  This will stop paint from getting INSIDE the grinder, but, nicely, the vents will get completely painted.


Painting is a double edged sword.  Its not rocket science, but its not something you can just do.  Ive been lucky enough to have someone teach me, who spent 25 years as a professional painter.  But there is a downside to that knowledge.  You notice bad painting.  Everytime you go somewhere, like your friends houses, who did their own remodeling or whatever, and they painted.. You can see the flaws.  But they cant.  Luckily, if you dont say anything, they will likely never see the flaws anyway.  Ignorance is bliss :)  (and you wont look like a mean friend lol)

 
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