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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 12:50pm
Subject: Baratza Preciso Portaholder Techniques
 

I'm trying to figure out the best way to use my Preciso.  I don't mind scooping out of the container into my basket but I like grinding into the portafilter bc I feel like I get a better distribution and less compression of the grinds into clumps before tamping (I really dont want to have to break up clumps...its why I like the grinder!).  The problem is that even when the adjustable portaholder brace (the metal part of the portaholder) is on its second level down, the mount of coffee into the portafilter gets too high.  I'm using the standard Gaggia Classic portafilter with double basket.  The portafilter itself is also at a downward angle if I let it just rest in the holder so I have to hold it with my hand to keep it level, which I generally don't mind doing bc I like being able to alter where the coffee is going anyway.  When the coffee gets too high in the portafilter, it sort of starts to go everywhere and I endup losing what I measure to be just around .45 g (an estimate of the average).  I'm thinking about removing the portaholder adjustable brace all together.  Also not sure if this fits into the question but I'm measuring beans and grinding 1 dose at a time, emptying the grinder each time.  There is usually just over .3 g of grind left in the grinder but I compensate when measuring.  

Can you guys talk about how/if you are able to avoid this problem?
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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 12:59pm
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I don't use the holder/brace, I cut a small yogurt cup to use as a funnel for grinds and for WDT that I just stick enough into the basket to hold, then place the PF right underneath and works perfect with no stray grounds. Then a quick purge or two with knocking to get the gram or so that's retained.
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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 1:11pm
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Love that idea...why didn't I think of it?!
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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 1:18pm
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Posted Tue May 14, 2013, 11:37am
Subject: Re: Baratza Preciso Portaholder Techniques
 

FWIW, I have a baratza vario (which I think uses the same/similar portaholder) and a gaggia classic, and I don't have any issues using it at 17 - 17.5g doses in the standard double basket.  I could probably do away with the portaholder all together as I do hold the handle up slightly to rotate the distribution around the basket and even shake it back and forth a little as it's filling up so it doesn't pile as high.  I single dose my grinding, as I'm trying to keep everything consistent while I learn, but I just tip the handle up slightly to have the front edge of the basket clear the holder 'tongue' and remove it carefully without any issues.
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013, 3:40pm
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Thanks for the advice, I think I'll probably end up doing something similar along with the yogurt cup trick.  I'll let you know how it goes!
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013, 1:28am
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Are you getting a 0.3g loss from input to output consistently every time you grind?
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013, 3:35pm
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I cut the yogurt cup until it will only go onto the inside lip of the basket and kind of teeters. Heat the PF and basket to group temperature or use about boiling water and then roll the yogurt cup around.  That plastic molds easily at about 200F.  It will mold to the inside of the basket for about 1/4" and then sit very stable and the last 1/4" is straight along the side wall.

 
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Posted Sun May 19, 2013, 7:33am
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D4F Said:

I cut the yogurt cup until it will only go onto the inside lip of the basket and kind of teeters. Heat the PF and basket to group temperature or use about boiling water and then roll the yogurt cup around.  That plastic molds easily at about 200F.  It will mold to the inside of the basket for about 1/4" and then sit very stable and the last 1/4" is straight along the side wall.

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I'm curious Fred...the preheated pf melts the yogurt cup enough to remold it? So, does that mean you always have to dose into a cold handle? For me, that would be incentive enough to make or buy a wooden or metal dosing funnel. Of course, I already own a wooden one as I got it with my knob and handle set I have pictured in my avatar.

 
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Posted Sun May 19, 2013, 11:41am
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Hi Ron, nice to hear from you. Thanks for asking, others may also wonder.

Not close to melt, but moldable with pressure and coaxing.  I use a hot PF and basket in daily use and it does not change the molded yogurt cup.  Since the cup is progressively wider it is increasingly difficult to stuff more into the basket.  It is only moldable with pressure, not under its own weight or by bumping it around in use.  It works great but lacks the visual appeal of your set up.  It is more easily done than explained, try it and you will understand the molding vs melt, and then you can toss it :)

 
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