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LowThudd
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Posted Fri Aug 16, 2013, 4:14pm
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fozzybear Said:

I hope not either!  My current plan is to settle in to the new rig.  After that I'm kinda thinking of experimenting with home roasting........ Could be interesting.

Posted August 16, 2013 link

Home roasting is great(with a proper grinder), and can be started on the cheap with an air popper. Honestly, for the small amount of coffee I drink, the air popper is all I need. I can make enough coffee in one batch for a day or two. Nice little $15 dollar investment, and I am learning alot about coffee in general as well.
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Posted Fri Aug 16, 2013, 6:31pm
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fozzybear Said:

I saw the SJ.  One of my considerations (read: my wife's considerations) is that the grinder must fit beneath our kitchen cabinets (happy wife, happy life) which imposes a limit of 18.5" height.

Posted August 13, 2013 link

Any of the 58mm flat burr grinders should work for you.  The Mazzer Mini, Macap M4 and Compak K3 are all about 16.5" tall with the bean hopper in place.  
The Mazzer Mini E's have 64mm flat burrs and are also 16.5" tall  with the bean hopper if you feel the need for the larger burrs.
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Posted Sat Aug 17, 2013, 1:47pm
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Home roasting is a great idea. Just try not to add too many new variables all at once. I now home roast and its fantastic, mainly for convenience. However, once you start doing this the grinder becomes even more important.

If you want to experiment I had great results with the cheap bread machine conversions for home roasting.
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Posted Mon Aug 19, 2013, 3:39am
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Hi all
I'm new to the forum.
I'm in the process of finalising my coffee set up.
Getting a Nuova Simonelli Oscar, but I'm undecided on the grinder. Use will be mainly espresso.
Currently looking at the Vario, Mazzer (might this is proving to be too expensive), ECM casa, also branded as Anfim, Kompak K3 and lastly the nuova simonelli Grinta as a last resort.
Your input will be greatly appreciated.
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fozzybear
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Posted Mon Aug 19, 2013, 5:20am
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Personally I passed on the ECM Casa (even though it would have looked great with my ECM Technika IV) because I felt that the grind graduation didnt seem granular enough for me.

I went for the Mazzer Mini, which I plan to upgrade with the SJ burrs.   Like you, my coffee drinking revolves largely around espresso (and related beverages).  Thus far (almost a week in) I couldn't be happier with this setup.

I purchased the Mazzer used.   I did a lot of research and these machines are rock solid - industrial grade.  It is for this reason that very comfortable buying used.
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Posted Mon Aug 19, 2013, 6:32am
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Hi
Thanks, yes, I know the Mazzers are solid grinders, but also hectically expensive for the doser less variant that I want. That is why I am looking at the Vario as option as well.
Just don't want to buy on price and be disappointed down the line. I am also a cognisant of over capitalising on my equipment as well based on my needs.
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Posted Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:02am
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Crema9bar Said:

Currently looking at the Vario, Mazzer (might this is proving to be too expensive), ECM casa, also branded as Anfim, Kompak K3 and lastly the nuova simonelli Grinta as a last resort.
Your input will be greatly appreciated.

Posted August 19, 2013 link

I have the Vario (non W version), and really like it.  My grinding is for a NS Oscar and La Pavoni lever espresso, and dialing in grinds has been pretty easy.  I weigh the doses separately and dump them into the hopper as I grind, so no need for the Vario-W for my setup.  I've had the grinder for about 5 months now, so I can't speak to long term use.  Probably had 3/4 pound of beans put through the grinder weekly.

Unfortunately I don't have experience with the other grinders.
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Crema9bar
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Posted Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:49am
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Thanks, it looks like the Vario is what I'm going to go with.
In terms of neatness, any concerns with grinds not landing in the portafilter properly? Making it messy?
Also, is it easy too clean? No grinds staying behind?
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 6:24am
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Doser-less = more mess, doser= less mess, less clumping and more time use options.

Dosers are a personal thing, none of us use them to measure the coffee for the shot. Without mods, some can retain more grounds that we may care for but with mods (easy ones at that) they can be made to sweep very clean with little if any retention.

 
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fozzybear
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 7:06am
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Re-enforcing what callblacksmith has said:  Moving from a doser-less to doser set up my observations are as follows:

The doser puts less grinds on my counter, but adds an extra dimension to clean up.  I've recently modified the sweep on my doser, so its much less of chore than it was.  

The doser results in less clumping than going doser-less.  Less clumping = less channelling and more consistent shots.  

Also, I tend to do quite a bit of repetitive shots (big family and lots of entertaining), and I find the doser excellent in this regard as I can set the timer while I'm doing everything else, and the *actual* grind speed (which isn't bad on the Mazzer) becomes a total non-issue.
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