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Burner0000
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 12:30pm
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Just for espresso I wouldn't think so.  $200 off on a Mazzer new is a good deal that's all.  I personally would go with the $200 of new rather than $150 or so off a used item.  I've only ever used doser grinders.  As cal was saying personal preference. I'd love to own a doserless some day because I think it will fit my routine a bit better but if I can save a ton of money and deal with a doser then I am happy with that.  :)
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RaGzMaN
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 6:39am
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I think I have narrowed it down, what do you guys think

Mazzer Mini @ $550
http://www.1st-line.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3895

or

Baratza Vario-W Grinder @ $440
https://www.baratza.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=985-R

I have to say im less inclined to go for a doser but feel like the mazzer would be a better investment in longevity and resale value.
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 7:03am
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IMHO go with the Mazzer for longevity.  The doser isn't that bad cal has a point to there are advantages like ease of cleaning if your single dosing.
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 7:17am
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RaGzMaN Said:

tglodjo could you explain what the Orphan Espresso dosing funnel does? Ive not got any experience with the Baratza, presumably its a pain to pour out into the portafilter.

Posted September 24, 2013 link

Since the Vario-W can't grind directly into the portafilter, I use a dosing funnel (Click Here (www.orphanespresso.com)) to keep the area clean when dumping the grinds into my pf. It's a useful tool, even with grinding directly into pf.

Here's my opinion regarding the Mazzer vs. Baratza from reading tons and tons on this site and others. The Mazzers have the build quality hands down. They'll outlast you. If that is important to you, go with that option. The Vario, on the other hand, grinds immensely well for its price, but it may need maintenance and/or repair at some point. I had a few issues calibrating mine properly when I first got it, but Baratza customer service is TOP NOTCH. The Vario is half the price of a Mazzer new, and from my experience, I'm willing to take the less expensive grinder if the result in the cup is as good as those twice it's price. Baratza stands behind their products and they've always had my back with customer support.
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 7:48am
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Thanks for the replies.

tglodjo Said:

The Vario is half the price of a Mazzer new, and from my experience, I'm willing to take the less expensive grinder if the result in the cup is as good as those twice it's price. Baratza stands behind their products and they've always had my back with customer support.

Posted September 25, 2013 link

Im with you on this, if its half the price id do it but the mazzer linked in my post is 550 bucks http://www.1st-line.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3895 where as the Baratza comes in at 440 refurbished.

At that price comparison maybe the cost incentive isnt so apparent?
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 7:53am
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Yeah, sorry, I didn't realize the prices were that close. I don't have any experience with a Mini, but scan through the forums for what others say. I know there have been issues with the electronic versions, but I think the one you linked to is the one most would recommend.

If I were buying, I'd still go the Vario route 1) because I really love the weighed doses, 2) the result in the cup is on par with the more expensive Mazzer, the Super Jolly, and 3) I use it for both espresso and manual brew, and it is super simple to adjust between the methods. (FYI, when calibrated for espresso, it will not go coarse enough for press pot coffee.)
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