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Inflictionmitch
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 4:09pm
Subject: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

Why does it come with a sheet warning that the grinder is "for commercial use, not for household use", with a large font, bold type "WARNING!" at the top of the paper? This is a bit scary to see!
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 9:27pm
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

Their marketing people need to get a grip.  It's a coffee grinder.
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:54pm
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

It's because, if you use the grinder in a household setting, the built-in environmental scanner will notice and start the self destruction sequence by initiating a nuclear explosion. ;-D

Seriously, just forget the sheet!

 
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 5:37am
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

Just a very wild guess here, there may be different safety standards for home vs commercial appliances?

I know it is true for things like range tops and ovens, commercial appliances do not have insulation or as much insulation so the sides get very hot, also, commercial ovens and ranges use standing pilot flames where home appliances do not allow these anymore for new units. The venting requirements are also very different for the gasses produced.

What is different with a grinder ?

 
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 7:02am
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

calblacksmith Said:

Just a very wild guess here, there may be different safety standards for home vs commercial appliances?

Posted September 25, 2013 link

But what kind of hazzards could their be in using a Mazzer Mini E as opposed to using a Rancilio Rocky, for example?

 
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:07am
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

???????

UH, electrical wiring / grounding ???
Finger guards? Dropping on a toe?

It may be an insurance thing too, for commercial use only.... you used it in a home, ... don't sue us! IDK ????

An email to Mazzer customer service may result in an answer but in any case, I would use it at home without any question.

 
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:45am
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

It's probably just a very loooooong stop on the remote risk of any product liability.  In the unlikely event anyone is injured using their equipment the manufacturer can point to the obligation on the part of a business owner/operator to ensure it is safely installed conforming to all local regs., that staff are trained in its use, and ensure they operate equipment safely.  

In the home, depending on local regulations, we may not all follow some of the commercial installation requirements like bonding to an equipotential node, which is required in the EU. (there's a terminal for this under the base of the grinder).

My espresso machine instructions tell me that as well as needing to be a competent person to use it, I may not use it "while children are in the vicinity"  I'll look both ways up and down the street to check in future.

My Technivorm says it may only be used by someone who has read all of the instructions (in 5 languages ?)

Do they still stick that "hot" label on e61 groupheads ?  

bottom line to the OP - don't worry - it's far safer than sticking your hand into a blender ;o)
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 5:50pm
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

__________ Said:

Do they still stick that "hot" label on e61 groupheads ?  

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Nah, they laser etch the symbol in now, because we all keept peeling off the horrible sticker.
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Posted Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:51pm
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

calblacksmith Said:

It may be an insurance thing too, for commercial use only.... you used it in a home, ... don't sue us! IDK ????

Posted September 25, 2013 link

That's about the only thing that really makes sense to me. American liability lawsuits are infamous after all. Just think about Liebeck vs. McDonald's Restaurants...

There are strange instructions all around: Don't dry your pets in the microwave oven.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 26, 2013, 2:18am
Subject: Re: Just got my Mazzer mini E (type B) - one nervous question:
 

NobbyR Said:

That's about the only thing that really makes sense to me. American liability lawsuits are infamous after all. Just think about Liebeck vs. McDonald's Restaurants...

There are strange instructions all around: Don't dry your pets in the microwave oven.

Posted September 25, 2013 link

LOL! Indeed!!

If you were to read the entire list of warnings, it "prolly" says things like:
  1. Do NOT used under water!
  2. Do not use outdoors!
  3. Do NOT used if on fire! etc., etc.

Alas, this is the result is our silly litigation happy society with its continuous nightime tv commercials for ambulance chaser lawyers.

 
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