Our Valued Sponsor
OpinionsConsumer ReviewsGuides and How TosCoffeeGeek ReviewsResourcesForums
Espresso: Grinders - Espresso
Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
Barista Tools
Large selection of tampers, pitchers, milk frothers and much more!
www.espressozone.com
 
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered  
Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Discussions > Espresso > Grinders -... > Grinders for...  
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
showing page 1 of 2 last page next page
Author Messages
cofeeartz
Senior Member


Joined: 12 Dec 2013
Posts: 7
Location: Italy
Expertise: I like coffee

Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 9:11am
Subject: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

Hi all!

I'm new to this forum so I wanna say hello to everyone before start discussing this topic.

Well I want to buy a grinder because I would like to use the non-pressurized filter with my gaggia baby class but if I do with already grinded coofee bought at the supermarket it cames out very liquid with no crema at all.
I have seen the "La Pavoni" kube mill grinder...what you think?
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
GVDub
Senior Member


Joined: 25 Jan 2008
Posts: 845
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Londinium I, Arrarex...
Grinder: Gaggia MD85, Dienes Mokka,...
Drip: Behmor Brazen, Abid Clever
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:12am
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

cofeeartz Said:

Hi all!

I'm new to this forum so I wanna say hello to everyone before start discussing this topic.

Well I want to buy a grinder because I would like to use the non-pressurized filter with my gaggia baby class but if I do with already grinded coofee bought at the supermarket it cames out very liquid with no crema at all.
I have seen the "La Pavoni" kube mill grinder...what you think?

Posted December 12, 2013 link

I think that you're buying stale coffee from the supermarket. Stale coffee doesn't produce real crema, so don't judge anything by that.

The La Pavoni Cube looks almost identical to the Nemox and LeLit burr grinders. If so, it's on the lower end of espresso-capable grinders, but should do the job.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
D4F
Senior Member


Joined: 15 Mar 2012
Posts: 1,870
Location: USA
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Preciso
Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:13am
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

Welcome to CG.

Using pre-ground without pressurized should not produce crema.  Pressurized was making fake crema.  You need a grinder capable or espresso grind and choking the machine and being stepless or micro-stepped so that you can make fine changes to keep dialed.  I am not familiar with grinders in your market, but not everything labeled as espresso capable is.

A great read for starting out

http://www.espressomyespresso.com/

   How to 12 - EASY GUIDE TO BETTER ESPRESSO AT HOME

 
D4F also at
http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
cofeeartz
Senior Member


Joined: 12 Dec 2013
Posts: 7
Location: Italy
Expertise: I like coffee

Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 1:45pm
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

D4F Said:

Welcome to CG.

Using pre-ground without pressurized should not produce crema.  Pressurized was making fake crema.  You need a grinder capable or espresso grind and choking the machine and being stepless or micro-stepped so that you can make fine changes to keep dialed.  I am not familiar with grinders in your market, but not everything labeled as espresso capable is.

A great read for starting out

http://www.espressomyespresso.com/

   How to 12 - EASY GUIDE TO BETTER ESPRESSO AT HOME

Posted December 12, 2013 link

Ok I'll read it, anyway which grinder would you suggest me?
I have seen that there is also the "La Pavoni Jolly" ...is that any better?
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
calblacksmith
Moderator
calblacksmith
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 7,468
Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 1:56pm
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

Here is a thread on that grinder you might find interesting.
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/grinders/541017

 
In real life, my name is
Wayne P.
Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
cofeeartz
Senior Member


Joined: 12 Dec 2013
Posts: 7
Location: Italy
Expertise: I like coffee

Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 3:49pm
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

calblacksmith Said:

Here is a thread on that grinder you might find interesting.
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/grinders/541017

Posted December 12, 2013 link

It seems to not be the best option out there. A uses substitute it with a MAZZER but it cost way much more. Is there a 250 us dollars ( 200 euro for me more or less ) grinder which allow me to do a fine espresso?
I have seen the rancilio Rocky but many users around the web report that to be not that great.

I have read the guide basically it says that the most important thing is the cooffe which need to be fresh and grinded on the moment, I knew that this is why I'm looking for a grinder to use with the NON-pressurized filter.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
Frost
Senior Member
Frost
Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,047
Location: Sierra
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Isomac Venus
Grinder: Lelit PL53
Roaster: Poppery I w/variac, MET, BT
Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 4:27pm
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

It appears the La Pavoni 'Kube' uses a 38mm conical Trespade burr set with stepless adjustment.  If so, this grinder will likely work just perfectly for your needs.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
D4F
Senior Member


Joined: 15 Mar 2012
Posts: 1,870
Location: USA
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Preciso
Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 4:31pm
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

The Rocky can be helped with a mod or two.  Search Rocky mods or Rocky stepless and you may see how to make it work better than standard and most reviews.  In US, $250 gets a Baratza Preciso.

 
D4F also at
http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
cofeeartz
Senior Member


Joined: 12 Dec 2013
Posts: 7
Location: Italy
Expertise: I like coffee

Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 5:31pm
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

Frost Said:

It appears the La Pavoni 'Kube' uses a 38mm conical Trespade burr set with stepless adjustment.  If so, this grinder will likely work just perfectly for your needs.

Posted December 12, 2013 link

a lot of people does say that the "La Pavoni kube" is the same of the nemox lux, so I have to assume that also the nemox lux use the "38mm conical Trespade" ??

Regarding the rocky I would like to take something that doesn't need mod! SOmething plag and play!

I have red about the Gaggia MDX which is also far more economic that those other one...how it is??
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
Frost
Senior Member
Frost
Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,047
Location: Sierra
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Isomac Venus
Grinder: Lelit PL53
Roaster: Poppery I w/variac, MET, BT
Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 5:54pm
Subject: Re: Grinders for having crema with Gaggia Baby Class with non pressurized filter
 

Yes, that's the one. For espresso grind quality and consistency, I would take (again) a Trespade stepless over Rocky, MDX, or Preciso.    however, they are loud and a bit slow.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
showing page 1 of 2 last page next page
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
Discussions > Espresso > Grinders -... > Grinders for...  
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered     Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
Discussions Quick Jump:
Symbols: New Posts= New Posts since your last visit      No New Posts= No New Posts since last visit     Go to most recent post= Newest post
Forum Rules:
No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards.
No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated; only private sales by private individuals, in the "Buy and Sell" forum.
No SEO style postings will be tolerated. SEO related posts will result in immediate ban from CoffeeGeek.
No cross posting allowed - do not post your topic to more than one forum, nor repost a topic to the same forum.
Who Can Read The Forum? Anyone can read posts in these discussion boards.
Who Can Post New Topics? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post new topics.
Who Can Post Replies? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post replies.
Can Photos be posted? Anyone can post photos in their new topics or replies.
Who can change or delete posts? Any CoffeeGeek member can edit their own posts. Only moderators can delete posts.
Probationary Period: If you are a new signup for CoffeeGeek, you cannot promote, endorse, criticise or otherwise post an unsolicited endorsement for any company, product or service in your first five postings.
Cafe Espresso Machines
Video reviews, nationwide installation, leasing options... Nuova Simonelli, Rancilio, La Marzocco.
www.seattlecoffeegear.com
Home | Opinions | Consumer Reviews | Guides & How Tos | CoffeeGeek Reviews | Resources | Forums | Contact Us
CoffeeGeek.com, CoffeeGeek, and Coffee Geek, along with all associated content & images are copyright ©2000-2014 by Mark Prince, all rights reserved, unless otherwise indicated. Content, code, and images may not be reused without permission. Usage of this website signifies agreement with our Terms and Conditions. (0.292859077454)
Privacy Policy | Copyright Info | Terms and Conditions | CoffeeGeek Advertisers | RSS | Find us on Google+