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deviantintegral
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Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 6:27pm
Subject: Reliability of Baratza Preciso
 

I'm looking for a first-time grinder for espresso. Ideally it's one I can use for other types of coffee as well so if I ever get bored with Espresso I still have a decent grinder. And, hopefully one that can stand up to normal home use for 5-10 years with reasonable repairs.

I'd narrowed it down to the Precisio and the Vario, and after that I came across the Preciso quickshot review. That seemed to have it settled for me. After all, less money, better machine! However, I took a look at the other reviews, and it's pretty clear there were reliability issues that wouldn't come out with less than a few months use.

I saw mentions of replacement parts and so on, but nearly all of the poor reviews are from 2012. It made me wonder, did Baratza fix the reliability issues in subsequent manufacturing runs? Or did their sales tank and everyone just buys Varios now? I would have expected a response from them given the large number of negative reviews.
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 7:53am
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Customer service from Baratza is excellent. They are very responsive to the market and stand strongly behind what they sell.

 
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 7:56am
Subject: Re: Reliability of Baratza Preciso
 

If you're an espresso person then there is no doubt the VARIO is the better choice. However, whether the increase in price is worth it? Only you can answer that.
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kinbote
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 8:20pm
Subject: Re: Reliability of Baratza Preciso
 

brianl Said:

If you're an espresso person then there is no doubt the VARIO is the better choice.

Posted December 13, 2013 link

+1 . . . some folks feel the Vario competes with the Mazzer Mini for espresso. Whether that's true, you never hear the same about the Preciso. Sure, the quickshot review gives a higher rating to the Preciso -- on certain measures. But overall, the Vario is the better machine.
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Posted Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:23am
Subject: Re: Reliability of Baratza Preciso
 

Own a Preciso and the Vario is a much better espresso grinder as far as taste in the cup. Preciso is capable of espresso no doubt, but it's a small conical burr set, everything else has larger flat Burrs or conicals that just kick ass lol.

Vario is well worth the extra money
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Posted Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:32pm
Subject: Re: Reliability of Baratza Preciso
 

I've had a Preciso for a while now but only use it as a brew grinder (pour over, drip, and press grinds).

I did have a Vario-W for a while and it was an excellent espresso grinder but it is now gone and I have a Forte BG (steel burr brew grinder) in its place.

I've pretty much settled down to a Super Jolly for all of my espresso grinding needs and have 2 Baratza grinders to handle all of the rest of the grinding.

I did have to replace the plastic grind adjustment ring in my Preciso so now I rarely change the grind setting off of what I use for my pour over needs.

I have never tried to get my Preciso to do a fine espresso grind as I had other grinders that did such a fine job on espresso (Vario-W and SJ).  when I replaced the adjustment ring in the Preciso, I set it to the coarser level so that I would have more adjustment in the medium grind range so I am not sure it would even grind fine enough for espresso now unless I took it back apart and reset it back to a finer level

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deviantintegral
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Posted Sat Dec 14, 2013, 6:01pm
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Sounds like the Vario (or -W) is the way to go. Thanks everyone for the feedback!
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Posted Tue Dec 24, 2013, 6:26am
Subject: Re: Reliability of Baratza Preciso
 

Preciso is garbage.  Do a search on here and you will find reams of threads of complaints.  CoffeeGeek moderators will defend the Preciso to the end because Baratza is a sponsor of this website but don't listen to them.  The machine is filled with plastic that warps over just a couple months of use.  Don't even think of changing the grind from fine to coarse and back.  It just increases the pressure on the plastic rendering your grinder useless after just a few uses.

Don't buy this grinder ever.
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Posted Wed Dec 25, 2013, 10:48am
Subject: Re: Reliability of Baratza Preciso
 

I bought one and have been using it for a year everyday with no issues of the machine itself. I found out there is an adjustment you can make internally for a finer grind setting.
I took it apart and followed the instructions but broke the plastic collar. I called Baratza and they fixed it for free and sent it back to me. If this one
ever breaks I will buy the Vario or the Forte. They simply stand behind their stuff and I like there ethos.
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Posted Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:53am
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Here's what Baratza has to say about the plastic they use in the grinders Click Here.

 
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