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jdevleerjr
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 8:05am
Subject: Baratza Vario vs Baratza Vario - W
 

I am in the process of selling my Rocky and getting a Baratza Vario.   I have also looked at the W version and it will dose by weight.  I will be honest and right now with my rocky I have never weighted out a shot.  I can get some very good shots, with no channeling on my bottomless portafilter.  I am upgrading my rocky for a better grind and the near stepless grind of the Vario.  

The normal Baratza Vario has a timer function that will automatically only grind for a set amount of time and it looks like like it can be set down to the 10th of a second.  My question is how consistent is it at dosing the same amount of coffee for the set time each time?  Is the W version of the grinder that much better because it goes on weight?
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:14am
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Time should be pretty darn close.
I have not used those grinders but I used to run my SJs on a timer for dosing and the results were fine.

 
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:30am
Subject: Re: Baratza Vario vs Baratza Vario - W
 

I had the Vario-W and love it. However, I have since downgraded to the timer model and it's actually just as good and more convenient. I prefer grinding directly into the portafiler (especially with the metal portaholder they sell separately). The timing is just as accurate as the weight-based grinding. Plus, if you plan to single dose at all, the -W function is worthless. I say save your money, get a standard Vario and buy the upgraded shut-off hopper and metal portaholder :)
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:33am
Subject: Re: Baratza Vario vs Baratza Vario - W
 

Vario:

Time my go off a little (time to weight ratio) when you change the grind setting.

The coarser the grind the faster the beans will flow through the burrs the more coffee will be ground.

The finer the grind setting the slower the beans will flow through.

for espresso your settings may vary just slightly so the volume/amount difference at the same time setting should be negligible.  The difference will begin to show up should you move to a med grind setting where you will get more coffee (volume) ground in the same amount of time.

As long as you remember this and adjust the time up or down for the different grind settings you should be fine

Vario-W:

Since this grinder runs based on the weight of the finished ground coffee in the bin it is always going to be dead on (within 0.2 +/- grams) regardless of the grind settings.

I've owned a Vario-w and found it to be a nice espresso grinder and the weight was always dead on.  I used an OE metal funnel in the portafilter to help get the ground coffee from the grinder bin into the portafilter without spilling which worked very nicely but this is just one extra step as you cannot grind directly into the portafilter with a Vario-W.

I enjoyed using the Vario-W for espresso and got extremely consistent shot volumes with very little "fiddling" with the fine tuning grind settings (up or down a click or so was all I needed to change based on what beans I was grinding) but YMMV.

The Vario-W really shines on pour over as you can dial in your weight exactly every time without the use of another set of scales to weigh the ungrounded beans (or the finished grind weight)

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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 9:35am
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Let me add that if you plan on grinding for any method other than espresso, I'd go with the Vario-W for sure. I only switched to the timed model when I got a dedicated pour over/drip grinder.
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Posted Mon Dec 16, 2013, 10:26am
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Thanks guys

I only plan to do espresso with this grinder as I have a 2nd grinder for french press or pour overs.  I want to grind right into the portafilter so It looks like the standard Vario it is.  Saves me about $100 bucks too!
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Posted Mon Dec 23, 2013, 9:53pm
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I just upgraded from the Rocky to the Vario-W and it's awesome.  I had some regrets until I tried the shots from the Vario.  I was on the fence about the Vario vs Vario-W, but I think it's only preference at that point.  If grinding directly into the portafilter is what you want, Vario, if you want to ensure every grind is the same weight, Vario-W.

Either way, in the cup, the quality of grind from the Vario is the best I've tasted.  Maybe some day I'll be able to taste test shots from a Super Caimano with a Slayer and Speedster, but for now, the Vario does the job well.
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