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jetmac
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Posted Fri Dec 27, 2013, 6:13am
Subject: Capresso 560, Starbucks Barista EL60; Which one should I keep?
 

I have never made my own espresso. I've been to SB many times. I want to make my own now. I have these 2 grinders. I see alot of good recommendations for the Barista but it can't come close to grinding as fine as the Capresso 560. I plan to mostly pull a double shot on Sat and Sun but, if it's not very time consuming, I would like to pull 1 or 2 shots each day. The espresso machines I am considering are the De'Longhi BAR32 Retro or the De'Longhi EC155. I realize these are really low end but that's about what my budget allows for now. I will upgrade as time goes on.  So I need to get rid of either the Barista grinder or the Capresso. Which one would would anyone recommend I sell?
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Posted Fri Dec 27, 2013, 8:37am
Subject: Re: Capresso 560, Starbucks Barista EL60; Which one should I keep?
 

Neither grinder is nearly good enough for decent espresso, nor is either machine.    

I suggest buying either an Aeropress or a good French press (preferably an Espro) and using it for the meantime.  What they brew isn't espresso but it will tell you almost as much about the bean as espresso, while providing your mouth far more joy than bad espresso.  If you really want something like espresso but can't afford the real thing -- and you can't -- you might think about a Mokapot.  

Both of your grinders are adequate for non-espresso brewing as long as you don't set too high a bar for "adequate."  A better grinder will make a big improvement for non-espresso brewing but the need isn't quite as dire.  Good non-espresso grinders start at just under $200.    

In the meantime, keep saving until you can afford an adequate espresso setup.  After you've banked a few hundred, plan around the grinder rather than the machine.  Think of the Baratza Preciso ($300) as something of a minimum for espresso, and of the Orphan Espresso (OE) Pharos (similarly priced) as a kludgy, hand-cranked, huge bargain.  

In case it needs saying, you can put together a very good setup for for considerably less money by buying used.  

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mennamorato
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Posted Fri Dec 27, 2013, 8:47am
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I wholeheartedly agree with BDL. Use a different method of making coffee until you have the money to purchase a decent setup.
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Posted Fri Dec 27, 2013, 3:01pm
Subject: Re: Capresso 560, Starbucks Barista EL60; Which one should I keep?
 

Sounds like good advice BDL. I do have an Aeropress and a cheap glass French press. I guess I was just wanting to get by until I could afford good stuff, but I don't want bad espresso. "but it will tell you almost as much about the bean as espresso, while providing your mouth far more joy than bad espresso." Interesting. Maybe I could sell my cheap glass french press and a grinder and get  the get the good Espro press to hold me over. Which grinder would you suggest I sell? The Capresso grinds finer but the Barista is much quieter and smaller.
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Posted Fri Dec 27, 2013, 6:37pm
Subject: Re: Capresso 560, Starbucks Barista EL60; Which one should I keep?
 

I'd sell the Barista, and when your ready to upgrade sell the Capresso too.
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