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trumz
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Joined: 27 May 2014
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Location: Finland
Expertise: I like coffee

Grinder: Hario Skerton
Vac Pot: Moka pot
Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 9:45am
Subject: Which of these grinders...
 

Hey, I live in Finland and haven't found any decent shops that sell coffee grinders here.  But the big supermarkets do have a small selection.  We don't have an espresso machine and probably won't be getting one for a few years.  We use a moka pot but I'd like to take it to the next level with fresh ground beans.  What do you think of this idea?
Budget isn't very big.  Looking at this one Click Here (prisma.s-verkkokauppa.fi)

or

the C3 from: Click Here (www.citymarket.fi)

What do you guys think?

Cheers, '
Kyle
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BoldJava
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Joined: 2 Jun 2006
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Location: St Paul, MN
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: '82 Oly Cremina 67
Grinder: Macap MC4 Doserless Stepped
Vac Pot: Yamas
Drip: Hario, Beehouse, Cilio, Kone...
Roaster: RK Drum and Gene
Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 10:36am
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Neither.  Look for a Baratza Encore.  This Swedish concern ships to Finland and the Baratza is a superior product to each of those.

http://www.adesso.se/new/Encore.html

 
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trumz
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Joined: 27 May 2014
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Location: Finland
Expertise: I like coffee

Grinder: Hario Skerton
Vac Pot: Moka pot
Posted Wed May 28, 2014, 11:54am
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Thanks for the quick reply.  I understand that quality grinders won't be cheap, but my budget is so tight at the moment that i have purchased a Hario Skerton.  This is my first grinder and will be no dought getting a quality electric someday.
How would the Bodum Bistro compare with the encore.  I found one for 120 new.

Thanks.
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Burner0000
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Joined: 28 Jul 2011
Posts: 1,082
Location: Cambridge, Ontario Canada
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: Rancilio Silvia, VFA Expres...
Grinder: Macap MX/VFA N1464/Kyocera...
Drip: Manual Drip, French Press
Roaster: Behmor 1600 / Sonofresco
Posted Wed May 28, 2014, 1:39pm
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For the extra 20 go with the Baratza Encore.  The Bistro only has 14 grind settings.  The Encore has 40.  Although the internals are the same the encore gives you a lot more room to maneuver.
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wabbitt
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Joined: 2 Jan 2010
Posts: 136
Location: california
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: stovetop pots,aeropress
Grinder: skerton, SoloGrind
Drip: melitta cone, chemex
Posted Wed May 28, 2014, 1:40pm
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(reposted from my history of replies)
I only do Aeropress, Moka pot, and pourover.  I have a Hario Skerton.  Great hand grinder for fine grind, just a little less great for course because of wobble down the shaft.  There are mods to stabilize this.  I thought I was tired of hand grinding and bought a SoloGrind.  Cheap enough I could afford to try it.  It's a burr grinder and a nice little size on my counter.  However, it produces a lot of powder (contributing to bitterness) and the consistency of the grind is all over the place.  I taste it in the cup, but at least it's still better than a whirly blade. I can live with it but I still prefer the Skerton when I have time and energy.

So unless you go with one of the recommended grinders, even if it seems like overkill that you don't do espresso, you'll get a lot of fines and poor grind consistency.  You'll probably taste it and wished you held out.
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BoldJava
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Location: St Paul, MN
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Espresso: '82 Oly Cremina 67
Grinder: Macap MC4 Doserless Stepped
Vac Pot: Yamas
Drip: Hario, Beehouse, Cilio, Kone...
Roaster: RK Drum and Gene
Posted Wed May 28, 2014, 3:06pm
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trumz Said:

Thanks for the quick reply.  I understand that quality grinders won't be cheap, but my budget is so tight at the moment that i have purchased a Hario Skerton.  ...

Thanks.

Posted May 28, 2014 link

I would recommend that you not compromise.  I would suggest waiting and saving until you have enough saved to buy the Barazta Encore.  Others, lower in price, will be a compromise and sadly, regretted.

For what it is worth.

 
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Angman
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Location: Vancouver BC
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Espresso: Strega, MCal, Cimbali M20L
Grinder: K10 Fresh, HG One 83mm,...
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Drip: Technivorm, Hario Woodneck,...
Roaster: Hottop 8828P
Posted Thu May 29, 2014, 10:23pm
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I agree.  Outside of the manual aspect the grind wouldn't be any better if not even worse then your Skerton.  Keep your hand grinder for now until budget permits the purchase of a real improvement otherwise you are just wasting money.
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Joined: 4 Jul 2002
Posts: 5,874
Location: Brentwood, TN
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Bezzera Strega
Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup
Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:14am
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Angman Said:

I agree.  Outside of the manual aspect the grind wouldn't be any better if not even worse then your Skerton.  Keep your hand grinder for now until budget permits the purchase of a real improvement otherwise you are just wasting money.

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A BIG +1.

 
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trumz
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Joined: 27 May 2014
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Location: Finland
Expertise: I like coffee

Grinder: Hario Skerton
Vac Pot: Moka pot
Posted Mon Jun 2, 2014, 5:35am
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Thanks for all the replys.  I haven't yet received my Skerton but I'll be sticking with it for some time while experimenting with fresh beans.  In the mean time I'll be dreaming of a proper espresso setup :)

Cheers.
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EricBNC
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Espresso: QM Silvano, LP Stradivarius,...
Grinder: K30, Major, Preciso, Pharos,...
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Drip: Bonavita BV-1800,...
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Posted Mon Jun 2, 2014, 9:24am
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If you are more comfortable buying local then the Wilfa would be a better choice than the C3

Click Here (www.citymarket.fi)

I have a similar grinder (the same grinder is sold as the Breville 450 here in the US). It works well for drip and fine drip. It should be alright for a moka pot.

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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