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Kats
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Posted Sun Aug 24, 2008, 9:24am
Subject: La Pavoni Pro - Possible machine problem
 

While the machine is heating up, the gauge gets about half way to the .5 mark, steam starts coming out of the safety valve, and sometimes it doesn't click off and allow the machine to reach the green area. Steam just keeps rolling out of that valve until I turn off the machine.

It doesn't do this all the time, but over the weekend it has happened about 4 times, and I've only had the machine since last week. I bought it new.

Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? If it needs something like an O-ring, we would be glad to fix that, unless that would void the warranty. I'm thinking the problem is deeper than that, and that I now want a replacement. Bummer.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Kathy
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Posted Sun Aug 24, 2008, 9:51am
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Sounds like either the spring on your pressure relieve valve is broken or it's not sealing properly. It's pretty easy to dismantle that assembly and visually inspect it. At worst you can buy a new one and install it.

Or you can talk to the vendor about it.
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Posted Thu Aug 28, 2008, 2:10am
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I agree that the machine should work perfectly out of the box, as you bought it new and expect a perfect machine.   If you had purchased a "works great last time" machine on ebay you could expect some issues but a new one?????   Your pressure valve should not be blowing off, period, at .5 bar.  
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Posted Tue Sep 2, 2008, 1:15pm
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pro - Possible machine problem
 

My La Pavoni Europiccolla used to leak out of the steam valve from new.  Not the overpressure valve but the steam valve.  I took apart the steam valve and found brass shavings in the gasket.  Picked out the brass shavings and no more leaking.

Maybe La Pavoni's quality control missed something.  I think it's good advice to return your Pro for a replacement if the over pressure valve won't stop leaking.
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Posted Tue Dec 30, 2008, 12:25pm
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pro - Possible machine problem
 

I have the exact same experience with you.  Mine is EPBB8.
The leaking problem got unbearable after 4-5 months of use since I bought it.
Last month I figured out a possible solution:
After you hear the steam leaking out the safety valve, push the machine from the bottom.  Don't slide over the table but make sure the friction between the table surface and seat pads of machine to produce vibrating.  
In only seconds you will notice the leaking improves or stops.  Not work?  
try again again and again.  It works to me all the time.
I don't know why it works, maybe the vibration moves the air bobbles accumulate under the valve.  
Good luck.
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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2009, 2:31am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pro - Possible machine problem
 

I like the sliding around on the counter fix but it seems pretty simple to get a new spring and stopper or even a new pressure valve for the machine.   I know I know, it's new and should not be doing this but they just don't make them like they used to.   Today is my birthday and I am officially a geezer,  can you tell?
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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2009, 7:13am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pro - Possible machine problem
 

I have a Romantica and the pressure relief valve is in the fill cap. It does sometimes stick open and blow steam. I just give it a gentle wack with the portafilter. Rember tis is a spring system that is heating up and pushing a valve closed. It also opens as it cools to break the vacumn. Should it work without human intervention? Yes, but somethings just take a gentle wack once and a while to remind them and to disloge and debris that may have blown into the seat.
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Posted Mon Mar 2, 2009, 8:28am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pro - Possible machine problem
 

I have a La Pavoni Europicola that I recently purchased from our local Williams Sonoma outlet.  Its basically doing the same thing described by the original poster.  Since my purchase was an all sales final type deal I can't return it to the store for an exchange.  So if I wanted to try to fix this what's the route I should take?  Any recommendations on where to go for parts?  I need a tamper to but that a different issue altogether.

Thanks
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Posted Mon Mar 2, 2009, 10:35am
Subject: Re: La Pavoni Pro - Possible machine problem
 

You'll want to order parts #19 and 20 in this diagram
http://www.lapavoni.com/PDF/RIC_EuropiccolaProfessional.pdf

They may be a different number for a non-Pro model. It's called the pressure relieve valve and you want the spring and stopper. You can order them from virtually any La Pavoni dealer.
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