IMAWriter Senior Member Joined: 4 Jul 2002 Posts: 5,476 Location: Brentwood, TN Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Nothing at the moment Grinder: Vario-W,Preciso-Esatto/KyM... Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup Drip: Brazen.Chemex, Hario, Clever... Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Sun Oct 23, 2011, 7:19pm Subject: Re: Cremina technique?
samuellaw178 Said:
Just want to reiterate what Rob recommended- If you have single basket on Cremina, try it!
Today I tried using the single basket with 9g Metropolis Redline with Mazzer Major(just because I like flat burr profile more). Used a low temp, a quick flush so that the head is hot enough but the temp strip is just barely showing 194F. No WDT or any fancy move- level, tap and tamp. Preinfuse for 4 seconds, pulled for about ~20 seconds(I dont really count, just aiming for a mouse-tail extraction with moderate pull strength). Bam! So sweet and full of flavours. Literally tasted like flavourful chocolate wine or something,
wow, that is a VERY good description, as I remember. I used Redline GREEN as my "test" espresso when I was Beta testing the behmor 1600 way back when. Tony's version now must not have changed that much. I also remember that little streak of citrus.
Interesting that you're getting better results with the single basket (though the basket shape may be helping your pulls.) Then again, it IS easier doing singles with miz Cremina than it was with my former lovely QM Anita. I attribute that to the fact I'm profiling the pull, and maybe maintaining a bit better puck integrity through the latter stages of the pull?
Edit...samuel, sorry i missed where you mentioned the tapered bottom of the single basket. So we were on the same wavelength anyway! The hole pattern on the Elektra single basket is a bit different, and it is deeper, so the singles i pull on it are maybe not true Italian singles...but they are yummy. Redbird and Dolce are particularly good as singles, as the crema dominates as it does in the doubles.
cadell Senior Member Joined: 16 Oct 2011 Posts: 5 Location: Jacksonville Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Mon Oct 24, 2011, 10:15pm Subject: Re: Cremina technique?
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Thanks for all the comments. It's really encouraging to know about this resource and the knowledge on tap. They have degrees in film studies, why not lever studies?
Endo Senior Member Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 804 Location: , location, location. Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: machine is < important than... Grinder: !
Posted Tue Oct 25, 2011, 5:58pm Subject: Re: Cremina technique?
I think the singles on the Cremina are the best I've done on any machine so far, but still, I find them a little "thinner" in terms or flavor compared to the doubles.
Still the singles are a nice option to have . I actually prefer singles over doubles in the afternoon and doing a 3pm "Italy style" walk-up shot was something I could never get right with my other machines, since it meant leaving my machine on all day or waiting for the 45 minute warm-up. Besides, the singles were never that good on other machines, so I was never that inspired.
Knowing I can have a excellent tasting and quick 11g ristretto after only a short 10 minute warm-up has turned me into an afternoon espresso "quickie" addict.
11g of beans is okay. I am using just 8-9g in the single basket most of the time and it worked for me. As long as there's at least 3mm headspace to allow the portafilter to be locked in, you will be good.
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