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Posted Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:15pm
Subject: Re: Bosco or Voctoria Arduino Athena Leva
 

joatmon Said:

John,

I believe Tim did us a service by pointing out that a lever machine that is NOT 58 mm is most capable of producing very good espresso.  Sometimes I see "what should I buy" threads where the 58 mm is listed as one of the requirements.  Anytime you open eyes to formerly unseen possibilities, you have served the CG community well.

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Posted November 16, 2011 link

Apologies to our fine OP for the continued Off topic, but if he/she/X will permit:
I agree as far as far as clarifying that a 53/55, etc group can produce comparable coffee, and should not be the deciding factor in purchase of a machine.
I recall several threads here discussing the merits..or not of the La Spaz 53mm group. Why? Because common perception was a 58mm group was somehow either better, or more "common." Who knows how many buyers went ion another direction due to the fallacy that 58 was all conquering.

Back on topic, as an owner of a Cremina (49mm), and before that a La Pavoni (51mm) I can assure our OP that there is a LOT more that determines preference for one machine over another than group size, not to say group size may play a part in the scheme of things.

 
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Posted Tue Nov 27, 2012, 5:54am
Subject: Re: Bosco or Voctoria Arduino Athena Leva
 

IMAWriter Said:

Apologies to our fine OP for the continued Off topic, but if he/she/X will permit:
I agree as far as far as clarifying that a 53/55, etc group can produce comparable coffee, and should not be the deciding factor in purchase of a machine.
I recall several threads here discussing the merits..or not of the La Spaz 53mm group. Why? Because common perception was a 58mm group was somehow either better, or more "common." Who knows how many buyers went ion another direction due to the fallacy that 58 was all conquering.

Back on topic, as an owner of a Cremina (49mm), and before that a La Pavoni (51mm) I can assure our OP that there is a LOT more that determines preference for one machine over another than group size, not to say group size may play a part in the scheme of things.

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I believe you are spot on!  I have wondered myself about why a 58mm group is such a big deal when the engineer in me say a smaller diameter group makes for thicker pucks and therefore less likely to be destroyed by the action of the lever, or a pump.

As far as taste goes I think it is more of how you handle the machine you have, working with the variables.

So OP, how is that 2 Grp Bosco working out?
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