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Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012, 6:20pm
Subject: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

I have the 49mm group.  So I measured the basket with a plastic caliper and the inside reads somewhere in the range of 49.5 to 50mm.  I think.  Its hard to be very accurate with a plastic caliper because there is so much give.

My question is what do people find the best fit to be?  Would 49mm be good or should I go with something more like 49.4?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thank you all!

 
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Posted Fri Aug 3, 2012, 6:40am
Subject: Re: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

Perhaps a better question is:  Does it even matter?

I asked Stefano of espressocare and he pointed me to tampers that are slightly smaller than 49mm.

I'm confused now.

If I get a 49mm base and its .5 to 1mm smaller than my basket, will that affect shot quality?  It seems like such a small variance.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:27am
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I have a 49.5 and it fits excellent.
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Posted Fri Aug 3, 2012, 3:09pm
Subject: Re: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

49,5 for the original la pavoni lever pre millennium with a good caliper is correct
the tampers that we sell for 49mm
are
the motta exactly 48.83
the generic one around 49mm (plus minus few decimal of a millimeter)
both of then are close enough to the edge of the basket that are slipping in and out easily,
keep in mind that you are dealing with decimal of ONE MILLIMETER
see picture

stefano65: 49mmtampersCompare.jpg

 
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Posted Fri Aug 3, 2012, 6:40pm
Subject: Re: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

Stefano thank you for clarifying and for the great pictures.  The ease of getting the tamper in and out is definitely my primary concern.

Beerwiffle does the tamper ever stick or create a vacuum?  Can it go all the way down into the basket?

 
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Posted Fri Aug 3, 2012, 10:43pm
Subject: Re: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

It definitely won't reach the bottom of an elektra double basket, but I can't imagine a scenario where that would be necessary. There is the SLIGHTEST bit of clearance so it doesn't stick or bind against the side. I took some pictures to show you how far it goes it goes into the basket. When I pack the basket with 16g, the base doesn't even go all the way into the basket.

beerwiffle: Untitled 3.jpg
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Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 10:32am
Subject: Re: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

original elektra basket made after 97
all the way down

stefano65: Photo Aug 06, 11 30 03 AM.jpg
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Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 2:57pm
Subject: Re: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

I went ahead and bought a 49mm tamper base and am very happy with it.  The extra room gives me lots of dosing flexibility and very little coffee clings to the walls.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2012, 6:49am
Subject: Re: Optimal Pre Millennium La Pavoni Europiccola Tamper Size?
 

ordered a 49.6mm based on others suggestions and my own measurements, very close fit but not too tight.  works well with both stock pavoni and elektra baskets.
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