IMAWriter Senior Member Joined: 4 Jul 2002 Posts: 5,475 Location: Brentwood, TN Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Nothing at the moment Grinder: Vario-W,Preciso-Esatto/KyM... Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup Drip: Brazen.Chemex, Hario, Clever... Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Thu Jul 26, 2012, 7:22pm Subject: Re: levers, good or bad ?
It's very likely that what I'm writing here will be off-putting to somebody, which is fine! It's not a strike against levers, it just goes back to my first point - there's a particular use scenario for levers, and not everybody fits that.
Steve I'm a lever owner (nearly 6 years) and I found NOTHING in your comments even remotely offensive. In fact you did a fine job describing things. I might add, maintenance is far easier. a descale only involves soaking the boiler an hour, rinsing a bit through the group and steam wand, dumping the rest, and filling the machine with clean water twice and and heating, and flushing g some of the water out, dumping the rest, to insure all the descale solution is out. Easy to work on DIY.
However, as has been mentioned,most HOME levers (Olympia Cremina, La Pavoni, MCAL, Pontevechio Lusso, etc) are not ideal for multiple plus, for several reasons, already mentioned.
Personally, I'd probably NEVER advise someone to get a lever as their FIRST machine, as grind/dose distribution are even MORE critical, IMO/ Only tamping is less a concern.
Now, a Bezzara Strega, Izzo, or other commercial one group lever is another story. They are as heat stable as any HX or Double boiler for the most part, and the spring pretty much eliminates barista error.
myrand Senior Member Joined: 11 Jul 2012 Posts: 16 Location: canada Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: pavoni europicolla Grinder: not a good one
Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:41pm Subject: Re: levers, good or bad ?
well, its done now.. i have an old but well maintained la pavoni 8 cups at home. it need a good cleaning wich i will do tomorow, other than that, everything seems to work fine. the price was fine as well, 40$ is pretty cheap for one of those. . lets make some test now :)
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