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jakeamcdermott
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Posted Wed Dec 12, 2012, 6:05pm
Subject: Reccomendations on grinder for La Pavoni europiccola
 

I'm looking for a little help on identifying a good, *lower*-cost grinder for a La Pavoni Europiccola.

I currently have a Capresso 560 that is light years above the blade grinder I had before - but I'm starting to run into issues with it.

Mostly, I'm finding that it works great for 80% of the coffees out there, but I've run into some problems.

A friend of mine brought some coffee from Ethiopia that I found I could not grind find enough for the La Pavoni Europiccola. And I just recently was gifted a bag from a major retailer that worked great in the industrial machine at the office, but didn't work at all well at home - again, can't get it fine enough. The best luck I've had have been with beans that have a higher oil content in them, it seems.  (A local friend of mine who does his own roasting, and a local microroastery come to mind..)

And it's not even close to the powdered sugar style of grind that you need for proper turkish coffee.

Any recommendations on burr grinders that are sub $300 and could grinds from perc to Turkish? My focus is the La Pavoni, so I want to hear what lever enthusiasts here have to say. I know these machines are sensitive bean quality, but I also know something is amiss here.
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Posted Thu Dec 13, 2012, 1:09am
Subject: Re: Reccomendations on grinder for La Pavoni europiccola
 

A blade grinder is no good, because you need homogenous grounds. The Baratza Preciso is genereálly agreed upon to be the entry level electrical grinder for espresso. Alternatively you could use a hand grinder.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 13, 2012, 1:57am
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@ jake,
maybe consider the recommendation of our head of forum?:

Click Here (coffeegeek.com)
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Posted Thu Dec 13, 2012, 1:16pm
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The Pharos is POSSIBLY the best espresso grinder out there, and if you consider its price, the argument becomes over-powering.  If you don't mind cranking, buy one; my pavoni works amazingly with it: crema body and flavour that nothing else can find, and there's something nice about having a lever with a manual grinder (even if it does look like you made it yourself in the garage).
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Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 7:13am
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uyeasound Said:

The Pharos is POSSIBLY the best espresso grinder out there, ...

Posted December 13, 2012 link

If you're talking hand grinder, you'll probably hear no protest here.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 8:05pm
Subject: Re: Reccomendations on grinder for La Pavoni europiccola
 

X2 for the Pharos and hand grinding

What makes you think that with some beans you are not grinding fine enough?

Is it running too fast?

Softer beans tend to run faster thus finer grind and firmer tamp

Also you can extract soft beans with a lower pressure so back off with the lever.
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Posted Sun Jan 6, 2013, 9:39pm
Subject: Re: Reccomendations on grinder for La Pavoni europiccola
 

My La Pavoni Pro is very sensitive to the proper grind.  I have a Lido and a Zassenhaus 169dg (both hand grinders).  Either does a good job grinding for the LP.  I also have a kitchenaide proline which the wife uses for drip and french press, however I have to admit I have not tried it for espresso.  both of the hand grinders have a stepless adjustment which I think is very important for the LP.  I often find that a very small adjustment of the grind setting will get the results I am looking for.  I don't believe you would be able to achieve these results with a grinder that has a stepped adjustment unless the steps were very fine (as some of the expensive electric grinders have).  So the advice for the pharos is on the money if you don't mind spinning a crank.  I kind of enjoy grinding by hand as part of the morning coffee ritual.
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Posted Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:45pm
Subject: Re: Reccomendations on grinder for La Pavoni europiccola
 

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I do currently use a burr grinder, and am quite aware of the how important a uniform grind is. The issue I have is that if I was presented with a dry bean, I'd never be able to grind it fine enough. No matter how hard I tamp down, it will run fast, and watery. If I take those grinds, and run them through my blade grinder for a moment, then I get the right pull - but I'm also opening myself up to having an uneven grind and, quite frankly, more steps that I'd like to do.

Hand grinders definitely sound like the way to go. I'm also into Turkish coffee, and definitely hear the call for a stepless grinder. I think the Pharos is the way to go in this instance, though it will be an act that will leave me no room to argue that I'm not a total coffee snob. :)
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