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Posted Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:19am
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I came across this vintage lever machine, and I can't understand what kind of lever design this is. Anyone?

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Posted Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:20am
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Another view.

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Posted Sat Sep 21, 2013, 5:23pm
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Interesting looking. Could it be a steam powered machine, with the "lever" actually being a valve?

 
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Posted Sat Sep 21, 2013, 9:49pm
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Hm... that may be the case. I asked the owner and he said this is the first version of the Musette and the lever acts left to right. I can't imagine it's a screw type piston, so it must be steam/valve as you say.
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Posted Mon Sep 23, 2013, 8:05pm
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Would this machine be worth about $500?
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 12:57am
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I wonder if the top lever opens a valve like the lever on an E-61 machine. Does the owner say this machine has a water pump?

 
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 6:53am
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Was the Musette not a spring lever machine? I'm guessing that this design actually followed the lever, and that it contains a water pump, which the lever engages. Given the era (60's, 70's?), this would make sense.  I'm not buying that this is steam powered from an earlier period.  Only way to know is to ask the seller.  If he says it works, he should be able to hear a pump running, unless he's not willing to test it.  As for value, if it's functioning, I'm sure someone would pay $500.
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Posted Tue Sep 24, 2013, 11:37am
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He says there is no pump. But maybe he just doesn't know. I asked directly if the machine has a piston, and he pretty much confirmed that the lever is just a steam valve. :/
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Posted Fri Mar 28, 2014, 5:54pm
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I just stumbled on this six-month-old thread and thought I recognized the machine in the photo ... sure enough, it looks exactly like a machine by "Achille Decarli" that was patented in 1963, I found this patent while researching another machine.

As I understand it, Achille Decarli was involved with Zacconi somehow, perhaps as a founder.

The full patent is here.  Very cool!

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Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014, 6:53pm
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That IS interesting. If you read the patent, it says essentially nothing, and the patent is for the "ornamental design."

Gives no clue to how it functions.

 
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