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Solipsiste
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:58am
Subject: Elektra Micro Casa a leva with Gaggia Grinder
 

Hi,

I have just received a brand new Elektra Micro Casa a leva. I am very excited about it.

I have been using a Gaggia-Classic machine before buying the Elektra and my grinder is also a Gaggia (simple burr grinder) with 32 steps.

I was wondering about the grind for the Elektra using my Gaggia grinder. I understand it depends on the coffee I use, but I would love to have some ideas where I should start experimenting. I suppose a rather fine grind is needed? 3 on the Gaggia grinder would be a good place to start? Any input or help would be appreciated!

Alex
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 5:01pm
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Congratulations on your purchase. The MCAL is a quirky machine, especially compared with a pump powered machine. I've owned one since 2004 and used it heavily. The grind is important, but you should let your preferences and taste buds decide how fine or coarse to set the grinder. I set the grind such that the lever moves up rather deliberately, but not too fast. The grind should not be so fine that it keeps the lever from moving. Since there is no release valve, the only way to free a stuck lever is to release the pressure by gradually turning the portafilter so the pressure is released but avoiding removing it entirely. Doing it too fast can be messy. Don't ask how I know this.

I'm sure others on the forum will want to add their opinions as well.
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Solipsiste
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 9:04pm
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Hi,

Yes, thanks. I will need to experiment further, but I am quite motivated to do so.

I have a worry though. The machine's pressure indicator is never going below 0.5 even when it's turned off and cold...
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Posted Tue Dec 3, 2013, 11:18am
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Solipsiste Said:

I have a worry though. The machine's pressure indicator is never going below 0.5 even when it's turned off and cold...

Posted December 2, 2013 link

You said you just bought your machine new, so contact your dealer for a replacement pressure gauge.
Having said that, there is no safety issue: the gauge doesn't control the heating element, the pstat does.
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Posted Fri Dec 6, 2013, 5:31pm
Subject: Re: Elektra Micro Casa a leva with Gaggia Grinder
 

Solipsiste Said:

Hi,

"and my grinder is also a Gaggia (simple burr grinder) with 32 steps."

I was wondering about the grind for the Elektra using my Gaggia grinder. I understand it depends on the coffee I use, but I would love to have some ideas where I should start experimenting. I suppose a rather fine grind is needed? 3 on the Gaggia grinder would be a good place to start? Any input or help would be appreciated!

Alex

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Alex, I STRONGLY suggest you upgrade your grinder. Your machine is particularly susceptible to bad results without a great grind. For $75, you can get a manual grinder that will be 200% better than your Gaggia grinder. The wooden ones sold by Orphan Espresso re the best, but they may no longer have any ready for espresso use. www.orphanespresso.com

If you want to go electric, I recommend a Baratza Vario. You can find them as refurbs, with full warranty, and some of the best customer service on the planet.
That flat burr will be awesome with your machine, which tends to "showcase" the clarity of shots.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 1:50pm
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The Microcasa a Leva - that one is on my short list, nice machine.  After I get my next espresso machine sorted / purchased, I will be in the market for a lever machine!!

Cheers.
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IMAWriter
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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 3:47pm
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SpaceTime Said:

And if you do go to Orphanespresso.com as IMAWriter suggested, check out the Pharos Grinders - $250 grinder with $1000 results.  I am not kidding - but don't ask me, search on the topic.


Cheers.

Posted December 11, 2013 link

The Pharos IS a very cool grinder, but PERHAPS it might be TOO large a step sideways. Most folks have had some experience with other grinders previously. The Pharos does take a bit of time to get things adjusted and such. But it will grind as good as $1000 electrics for espresso.
I'm just wondering if something like a Preciso or Vario refurb might be a more consistent way to get in tune with the MCAL.
A lever is a radical change as is, and there is a bit of learning curve. Perhaps we can get a Pharos owner on this thread!

 
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SpaceTime
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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 4:20pm
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IMAWriter Said:

The Pharos IS a very cool grinder, but PERHAPS it might be TOO large a step sideways. Most folks have had some experience with other grinders previously. The Pharos does take a bit of time to get things adjusted and such. But it will grind as good as $1000 electrics for espresso.
I'm just wondering if something like a Preciso or Vario refurb might be a more consistent way to get in tune with the MCAL.
A lever is a radical change as is, and there is a bit of learning curve. Perhaps we can get a Pharos owner on this thread!

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All good points... btw, I am a Pharos owner!
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