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SpaceTime
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Posted Wed Dec 18, 2013, 4:36pm
Subject: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

Title says it all, I actually even called Cerini's yesterday to talk with them... but the person who had the details on the Cremina was not in... (thank goodness).

I have been looking on Ebay for a used Cremina for some time, but never pulled the trigger as I was always worried about the unknown.  I am very handy, have a very nice shop (wood) and mechanically inclined - so it is not the prospect of rebuilding that scares me.  It is more the time, and the fear of spending $500 to a $1000 and getting a machine that needs way more put into it due to misuse that is not obvious on the surface (like a damaged boiler, etc).

One thing I have noticed in my brief time on the hunt for a used Cremina, I have not really seen a semi-recent used one for sale.  Maybe that says something - but  why is that?  I cannot recall seeing any past early 90's.

Anyway, I am sure there some here that know more about these than I will ever... if you would be so kind to share with someone who wants to learn, it would be much appreciated!!! :-)

Am I crazy for even thinking of paying up for a new Cremina?
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 4:00am
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SpaceTime Said:

Title says it all, I actually even called Cerini's yesterday to talk with them... but the person who had the details on the Cremina was not in... (thank goodness).

I have been looking on Ebay for a used Cremina for some time, but never pulled the trigger as I was always worried about the unknown.  I am very handy, have a very nice shop (wood) and mechanically inclined - so it is not the prospect of rebuilding that scares me.  It is more the time, and the fear of spending $500 to a $1000 and getting a machine that needs way more put into it due to misuse that is not obvious on the surface (like a damaged boiler, etc).

One thing I have noticed in my brief time on the hunt for a used Cremina, I have not really seen a semi-recent used one for sale.  Maybe that says something - but  why is that?  I cannot recall seeing any past early 90's.

Anyway, I am sure there some here that know more about these than I will ever... if you would be so kind to share with someone who wants to learn, it would be much appreciated!!! :-)

Am I crazy for even thinking of paying up for a new Cremina?

Posted December 18, 2013 link

Not at all.  $3600 is a bargain for such a fine machine. Go for it! New is always nicer too.  No worries, peace of mind.   Better construction.  More modern production methods (look at those gorgeous tig welds!)..    With minimal care, these babies last FOREVER so might as well get the one you want.
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SpaceTime
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 6:07am
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

So someone calling themselves "wee bit nutty" is telling me I am not crazy?

:-)
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 7:43am
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

z0mbie Said:

Better construction.  More modern production methods (look at those gorgeous tig welds!)..  

Posted December 19, 2013 link

Thank you for the inputs - do you have any examples / details?
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 7:24pm
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

I'm having the same thoughts, although I'm not that worried about rebuilding a machine, wouldn't it be nice to just buy the machine you could potentially have for the next 20 or 30 years?

Tonight I was looking the Londonium and Strega, and those aren't really the machine I want, I love the simplicity of the Cremina.  

I currently have a La Cimbali Liberty.

Are there any other Olympia dealers besides the one you mentioned?

Olympia if you are reading this, $2k would be a no brainier purchase.

James
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 7:24pm
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

I'm having the same thoughts, although I'm not that worried about rebuilding a machine, wouldn't it be nice to just buy the machine you could potentially have for the next 20 or 30 years?

Tonight I was looking the Londonium and Strega, and those aren't really the machine I want, I love the simplicity of the Cremina.  

I currently have a La Cimbali Liberty.

Are there any other Olympia dealers besides the one you mentioned?

Olympia if you are reading this, $2k would be a no brainier purchase.

James
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z0mbie
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 8:18pm
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

SpaceTime Said:

Thank you for the inputs - do you have any examples / details?

Posted December 19, 2013 link

There's a nice forum post detailing the specifics of a late model Cremina model written by Doug Garrott of Orphan Espresso. Google it.
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Posted Thu Dec 19, 2013, 8:51pm
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

I don't fault your wish for a new machine. If you buy one, you will know it is the most evolved design of the Cremina, will be made with the stainless boiler, will have a gauge, a choice of colors, the newest finish (powdercoat) newest cabinet design and of course a warranty. It will have all of the things that make the older units popular still, but better.  There won't be any concern about asbestos lagging and all the electrics will be new.

The elegance and simplicity, and the fact that a relatively small (but incredibly sturdy) machine can make exceptional espresso. The footprint,  for a domestic setting, is close to perfect. And like all manual lever machines, it is extremely quiet.

(I have the latest Maximatic, FWIW.)
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SpaceTime
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Posted Fri Dec 20, 2013, 7:43am
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

jmarcus Said:

Tonight I was looking the Londonium and Strega, and those aren't really the machine I want, I love the simplicity of the Cremina.  

Posted December 19, 2013 link

I looked hard at the Londinium also... that is a GREAT machine - problem I had was footprint - the depth 21 1/4 inches, making too deep for where I want to put it.  

Considering the Cremina is a diminutive 8x11, and the Londinium is 13 x 21 - that makes the Londinium 273 sq in, which is over THREE times more counter space.  In fact, the square inch foot print is more than some of the behemoth Semi Autos like the Duetto DB, Rocket DB, Vetrano DB.  Think about that for a minute... by the way, I did not see a weight listed on the Londinium website.  I probably don't want to know!
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Posted Fri Dec 20, 2013, 7:44am
Subject: Re: New Olympia Cremina - am **I** crazy?!
 

z0mbie Said:

There's a nice forum post detailing the specifics of a late model Cremina model written by Doug Garrott of Orphan Espresso. Google it.

Posted December 19, 2013 link

Yes, saw that a long while ago, thanks.  It is one of the first things that come up when you start on the search.
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