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Posted Tue Apr 22, 2008, 11:27pm
Subject: Silvia Steam Valve Pipe (trying to bend and fit)
 

Trying to get Silvia together, after having ordered a new Steam Valve pipe and experiencing difficulty bending it into shape in order to screw the nuts into boiler and steam valve.  Looks easy to get into shape until you take a hold of it.  Any suggestions before I do more damage would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 5:53am
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Im thinkin that you have the wrong pipe..And you would need a tiny pipe bender to bend the pipe without putting a kink in it...You might consider contacting the vendor...



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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 6:02am
Subject: Re: Silvia Steam Valve Pipe (trying to bend and fit)
 

Why does it no longer fit?

did you replace the boiler?

new replacement boilers  for all silvs contain the correct pipe  -- or should.

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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 6:34am
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The pipe appears to be the correct one, for the older Silvia.  I dinged it up working on machine (steam valve maintenance), kinked it and ordered new one from Espresso Parts.  I've got it almost in there, but I've kinked it a bit in process.  Pipe came 'straight' and I had to angle/dangle it.  I will contact Espresso Parts, for their recommendation as well.  

A tiny pipe bender .... I should have looked into one of them in first place.
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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 7:29am
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Hi Dave,

I went through all this with Kathy with about 10 emails from Mar 30 - April 9th with pics & descriptions.

Welcome to the Coffeegeek forums Kathy! {;-)

I see by your post on alt.coffee & here you're back from vacation. Finally posted here out of desperation eh? kiddin'!, well we're all here to help. {:-)

 
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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 8:00am
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Craig - Very funny :-( Ah, this is a NEW problem...so what's you think?  Yes back from vacation but wanna now finish this 'little' project I left in the middle.  We went over process w/ about 50 emails as I remember.  You are a wealth of information... :-)
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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 8:07am
Subject: Re: Silvia Steam Valve Pipe (trying to bend and fit)
 

This probably won't be of any help, but - even though I've worked with copper tubing a number of times in the past, I only recently found out that soft copper tubing hardens when you bend it, so it doesn't want to bend again.  So I'm guessing the key to doing what you're trying to do is to get it bent right the first time rather than working it.  I think in theory it might be possible to resoften it by heating red hot then cooling it quickly in water, but I don't really know if this is a practical thing to do at home.
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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 8:08am
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Fogcity Said:

We went over process w/ about 50 emails as I remember.

Posted April 23, 2008 link

No, only 26 betweew the 2 of us as I just recounted them & I still have them saved. I just posted this on alt @ 12.01pm, 1 minute before I saw your post here.

Hi Kathy!
I answered you on the CG forums.Can you post some pics of where you're at to date possibly please?
Thanks & see ya there.
Cheers!
Sincerely,
Craig.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 8:21am
Subject: Re: Silvia Steam Valve Pipe (trying to bend and fit)
 

kh99 - No, I knew Craig was kidding around.  The guy is amazing and I did not want to personally both him.  Anyway, I wondered if heating it would help and possible, but I'll tinker a bit more.  My intent was to put the new pipe on as I received in from Espresso Parts - didn't expect to have to wrestle with it.
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Posted Wed Apr 23, 2008, 8:24am
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Yeah, I totally misunderstood what was going on and thought he was refering to instructions he gave to someone else (which is why I deleted that part from my post).  Anyway, good luck.
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