rijsberman Senior Member Joined: 9 Feb 2012 Posts: 1 Location: Almere, the Netherlands Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: ECM Cellini, ECM Raffaello Grinder: Ascaso i1 Drip: too many
Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012, 6:49am Subject: New control box in my ECM Cellini
My much beloved ECM Cellini suffered from a broken control box. The one in it was a Pro.El.Ind A190004275.
I ordered a replacement and the webshop I ordered from advised me a Gicar RL 30/2S/3GR (type 9.1.40.61G), which should do the trick.
Just removing the connectors from one box and attaching them to another seems easy enough. However, not all connectors are not clear to me. Especcially the SRIF, SLIV and SSIC connectors on the Gicar baffle me. I'm guessing SLIV is the water level probe.
The A190004275 has the following: 1 N. 2 P. 3 Resistor 4 Pump 5 Ev. 6 Light 7 Common level 8 Autolevel 9 Water Level 10 Pressure SW 11 Dispensing 12 Common 13 Common
The Gicar has: 1 SSIC 2 SLIV (waterlevel?) 3 SRIF 4 everog 5 RES (resistor) 6 EVCAR 7 POMPA 8 Comune 9 LAMP 10 Main supply
jpboyt Senior Member Joined: 28 May 2010 Posts: 22 Location: Washington, USA Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sun Mar 25, 2012, 1:24pm Subject: Re: New control box in my ECM Cellini
Greets, I see that no one has tackled this riddle yet.
No promises, but I would line up the items as follows: Old to new: 1 N. - 8. Comune (This is the AC neutral) 2 P. - 10. Line Supply (115 vac hot lead) 3 Resistor. - 5 RES (This is the heating element) 4 Pump. - 7 POMPA (water pump) 5 EV. - 6 EVCAR (Ellectro Valve Caricamento.) Auto fill solenoid 6 Light. - 9 Lamp. (Power on or ?)
All the above are line voltage. Mr Snappy lives here.
These below are all low voltage signal terminals:
7 Common Level.- 3 SRIF (Sonde Riferimento) probe reference. Ground.
8 Auto Level. - 2 Probably SLIV (Sonde Livello) probe level (normally max level) 9 Water Level. - Probably was the minimum level. This wire probably won't have a new home.
Of the two wires above, the wire that connects to the maximum level probe will go to the 2 SLIV terminal on the Gicar box.
10 Pressure SW. - 1 SSIC (Sonde Sicurezza) probe safety. The only question here is how the Gicar box responds. Sometimes this sensor shuts off everthing. Sometimes it just shuts off the heating element. 11 Dispensing. - 4 ev erog (electro valve erogation) Brew solenoid 12 Common. - 13 Common. -
As you will notice the original has three sensors, two water and one pressure. The replacement Gicar box only has two sensors. Repairing the original box is an option that I would like to offer also. jpboyt
Posted Sun Mar 25, 2012, 1:46pm Subject: Re: New control box in my ECM Cellini
It would have been nice to know what was hooked up before removing the old box, but the "water level" may be as a safety shutoff for low water level in the reservoir.
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