atsamattau Junior Member Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Posts: 4 Location: SoCal Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Thu Mar 21, 2013, 2:07am Subject: Nuovo Simonelli Beach
Anyone have any experience with the Beach made by Nuovo Simonelli? I just got one off ebay but I can't find much information on the thing. It is got to be one of the ugliest machines made:
I got it because it has a heat exchangeer and a rotary pump with water hookup and only draws 10 amps at 120 volts, which is what I have been looking for. I geusse it wont look so bad with everything polished up and painted, but I'm more concerned with performance since I allready have a few machines that look nice.
Anyone know how well this thing will perform? Anyone have any parts for it?
Posted Thu Mar 21, 2013, 8:19am Subject: Re: Nuovo Simonelli Beach
GUESSING: It appears to be a plumbed-in machine with a manual boiler fill (the lever on the front of the frame below the drip tray). It looks like a water level sensor on the boiler, but I do not see a control box for it. Also, the heating element leads are not visible, but it does have a pressurestat. It will be easy to work on, and if the motor and pump are good then you didn't do too badly. Form there on, the value will be in education..
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Posted Thu Mar 21, 2013, 9:13am Subject: Re: Nuovo Simonelli Beach
Single group, vert boiler, rotary pump, auto fill, HX commercial machine that has a hard life. The knob on the front is a manual fill for the boiler, (the sensor for auto fill is on the R of the top of the boiler) and it does have a sight glass like said above. Hot water on left and steam on the right.
It will require a good cleaning, a new group gasket and likely a descale of the boiler and hopefully there will not be any damage to it from being stored, full of water in a unheated space over winter and have the water freeze, thus breaking pipes etc.
If there is no damage and once clean and working properly, it should make good espresso, looking good on the counter, well, I suppose it's mother loves it ;<D
I really can't read what the switches are for, not close enough and excessive wear to the silk screening and glare make it hard to read them.
EDIT: after really looking hard at the photos with zoom, it seems that the machine is a manual fill and that one of the leads to the heater is broken off the element which will require it's replacement, possibly a hard thing to find. Check the machine over well when it gets to you but up close it really looks like the heater contacts are broken on top of the boiler. At first I thought they were the water level sensor and a vacuum breaker but there is an insulator on what I thought was a water level sensor, like what you have on a heater and if you look close at what I thought was a vacuum breaker, it looks like a broken insulator on the inside. I do not see a second wire for the other side of the heater so I may be wrong or they may have tucked it up out of the way so you could not see that it was broken.
Manual fill, pressure stat, manual start / stop, there would not be any brain box to speak of. With the two switches on the panel, it looks like the controls for a SBDU with a steam/coffee switch and a brew switch or it could be ON/OFF and brew but I am wondering why they use a rocker switch for brewing. Interesting.... ?
NS may be your only hope of finding a heater for it. At least it will be clean inside the boiler when you are done as it looks like the boiler needs to be disassembled to replace the element from the inside.
Good luck!
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and it shows the top of the boiler with a pipe to the steam valve going to the broken stem on the machine I got. For some reason the machines have the steam and water switched, and tis guy's machine has a programable switch and a pressure guage - must be the delux model. For a minute I was worried that it was a heater element like you thought, thank god its not! I'm hoping it hasn't sustained any freeze damage like you mentioned, it is coming from Ohio so that is a real possibility.
The finished machine actually looks very nice after it has been painted up and cleaned, if I can obtain similar results I will be very happy.
I'm just excited to finally have a rotary pump machine to play around with!
As far as the graphics go anything can be done pretty easily these days with a computer and a vinyl cutting plotter, either with stencils or self adhesive vinyl. It should be a fun project, and a decent machine when its running right.
Anyone with parts for this thing please let me know.
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