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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2014, 7:09am
Subject: Descaling plumbed-in Brewtus IV
 

First, hello, I am new to this forum.

I have what I hope is a simple question. I have plumbed a drop and the valves necessary to pull water or descaling solution into the machine from a jug. My question is simply what is the best way to proceed? I have some Jura descaling tablets that I could use, but no idea of the proper ratio. What should I use to descale, how much to pump through, and over how long a time?

A little history. The city water here, while good, is very hard, so I'd started with this machine running RO. That did not produce very good results, so I've just installed a Mavea Purity C system. I reckon I should descale once or twice a year, though I am not a heavy user--2 cups of Americano in the morning, an espresso or cappuccino in the afternoon.

Happy for any advice.

Jack
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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2014, 8:13am
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I recommend going to Stefano's Espressocare (www.espressocare.com) and downloading both the descale how to manual for double boiler machines and the Vibiemme Manual.  The manual was written by "frcn" and is not only very, very thorough, but it includes lots of great information applicable to all double boiler machines, including diagrams and photos about how they operate.

Good call on the Mavea! I've got my eye on one too, as we're doing some remodeling soon and I'll be putting one in too.

 
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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2014, 8:49am
Subject: Re: Descaling plumbed-in Brewtus IV
 

emradguy Said:

I recommend going to Stefano's Espressocare (www.espressocare.com) and downloading both the descale how to manual for double boiler machines and the Vibiemme Manual.  The manual was written by "frcn" and is not only very, very thorough, but it includes lots of great information applicable to all double boiler machines, including diagrams and photos about how they operate.

Good call on the Mavea! I've got my eye on one too, as we're doing some remodeling soon and I'll be putting one in too.

Posted February 13, 2014 link

Thanks for the help--but I can't find either item at Stefano's. Would be grateful for direct links.
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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:11am
Subject: Re: Descaling plumbed-in Brewtus IV
 

If you scroll down this page...

http://www.espressocare.com/VibiemmeMain.html

you should see the following hyperlinks...

Click here for a complete manual for Heating exchanger pre 2011 (courtesy of 1st-line equipment)
Supplementary PID and rotary pump manual. (courtesy of Stefano's Espresso Care)
Descaling manual VBM Heating Exchanger (courtesy of Stefano's Espresso Care)
Descaling VBM Double Boiler pre 2011 version (courtesy of Stefano's Espresso Care)
Vibiemme Double Boiler 2011 Manual ( Courtesy of 1st-line, made by Frcn Digital with Stefano's Espresso Care collaboration)
Vibiemme Official Web Page New Re-Designed web page 2012

Here are the pages for the two I mentioned...

Click Here (www.espressocare.com)
Click Here (www.espressocare.com)

I just realized, when looking at its title carefully, the first link is not as generic as I had remembered. Read through it and see if it still won';t be valid for your Brewtus.  If not, 1st-line.com also has some double boiler descaling instructions though.
You may also want to print out the critical pages, so you can have them next to the machine as you run through the process.

Basic operation is get descaling solution into both boilers by running the hot water wand and the group until you see solution appear in your vessel.  Let it sit for a period of time (30-60 min is typical, iirc), then flush it all out until the water is uber clean.

It's not too difficult, just follow the directions in the manual/guide that suits your setup.

 
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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2014, 4:42pm
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Thanks again. Very helpful links. I just ordered some food-grade citric acid from Amazon.
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