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wkc
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Joined: 5 Jun 2005
Posts: 57
Location: New York
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: Expobar Office Control
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Electronic Mod B
Roaster: Poppery II
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:13pm
Subject: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

Since I got some AE points to redeem for some free gift, I was just thinking if I should get my wife a KitchenAid or a Krups.  Then I saw some "unknown" brands like Saeco and DeLonghi in their list.  So I search around and found this site.  I read some review, did some price search, looked into ebay, came back here to read more review and forum posts.  A few cycles of this reading and searching later, the names progress from Krups to DeLonghi which I could get for free using the AE points.  Then change again from using free AE points to real money to get the Gaggia, then change again to a FF X3, then to a Solis SL-70 or the Rancillo Silvia.

Instead of a Solis Maestro that I could get for free to a Rocky, then a Mazzer Mini, then a bloody pricy Mazzer Mini Electronic.  See what you guys did to me!!  Just don't tell my wife I'm going to spend over a thousand dollars to get her some "potentially" good cup of espresso.

I'm thinking why bother the upgrades.  I doubt my wife would let me spend more money on it later anyway.  Just get supposingly the best (and less than or just about $1000).  With the Silvia and Mazzer Mini E, I hope I'm not going way over my head as our first set of machines...
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BenB
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Joined: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 466
Location: Perth, Australia
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: 2 x 2grp LM
Grinder: 2 Swifts, Mazzer Robur
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:19pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

:)

Welcome to CoffeeGeek Wes!

This situation happens to the best of us. My Boss used to be a school teacher for 12 years before he stumbled on this site and caught the fever. He quit his job and now runs an espresso bar so he can make coffee all day long. :)

I'm sure you'll have great fun experimenting with your (and wife's) new equipment.

Cheers,
Ben
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krzyhobo
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krzyhobo
Joined: 8 Dec 2003
Posts: 353
Location: Shoreline, WA
Expertise: Pro Barista

Espresso: FB70/Wega
Grinder: Rio/Mazzer
Drip: Pourover
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:25pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

Reading a post like this always brings a smile to my face and reminds me of my first steps on a little thermoblock Krups =)

Welcome to the community!  Have fun and drink good coffee.
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JonR10
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Joined: 26 Apr 2004
Posts: 10,376
Location: Houston, Texas
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: E61 Legend, Livietta,...
Grinder: Robur, B-Vario-W
Vac Pot: Hario Tabletop, Yama...
Drip: Technivorm
Roaster: 1-lb US Roaster, Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:33pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

Hi Wes, and welcome to coffeegeek!  
Also welcome to the club...

Great move going for a great grinder!  
Just remember these things:  

  1. Silvia is a "high maintenance" mistress and the learning curve can be steep, so please don't be too disappointed when you find out it can be tougher than it looks.  

  2. You'll need very fresh and properly roasted coffeebeans to make good espresso

We can help you find the beans if you like, Starbux won't cut it.  

If you're going to try to avoid upgrade fever then maybe you would be willing to consider an HX machine (like the Expobar Pulsar or an on-sale Isomac).  Right now you could likely manage a deal for a Mazzer and an HX that will have you in the same neighborhood for cost.  By substituting the regular mini you could "free up" enough budget for the HX and avoid many of the Silvia learning curve woes, and thye bonus is you could make a pair of latte drinks for you and your wife quick enough that you could enjoythem together.  

Often times we discover that once you're making the "real deal" drinks the SO can be more forgiving (especially if she's a coffee lover as well).  

Again - welcome to coffeegeek!

 
Jon Rosenthal
Houston, TX
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superjohnny
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superjohnny
Joined: 31 Dec 2004
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Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:33pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

A Mazzer Mini E will put a pretty good dent in $1,000.  What are AE points?
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wkc
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Location: New York
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Espresso: Expobar Office Control
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Electronic Mod B
Roaster: Poppery II
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:37pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

AE points are like frequent flying miles that you get but from an American Express card.  Each dollar I spent I got a point towards some gifts.  My AE is a corporate card.  I rang up at least a few thousands points every month from the business expenses.  


JonR10 Said:

Great move going for a great grinder!  

Posted June 5, 2005 link

Thanks for a lot of people's comments from here.  I knew I need to spent more money on the grinder.  :)

JonR10 Said:

Silvia is a "high maintenance" mistress and the learning curve can be steep, so please don't be too disappointed when you find out it can be tougher than it looks.  

Posted June 5, 2005 link

From what I've read so far, this is what the most I'm afraid of as well...

superjohnny Said:

A Mazzer Mini E will put a pretty good dent in $1,000.

Posted June 5, 2005 link

Yea, that's why I didn't even look at any espresso machines that are over $400.   Let me go look at the Pulser Espresso now.
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JonR10
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JonR10
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Location: Houston, Texas
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: E61 Legend, Livietta,...
Grinder: Robur, B-Vario-W
Vac Pot: Hario Tabletop, Yama...
Drip: Technivorm
Roaster: 1-lb US Roaster, Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:48pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

wkc Said:

From what I've read so far, this is what the most I'm afraid of as well...

Posted June 5, 2005 link

Well then, maybe read up about "prosumer" machines.  They have a much easier learning curve.  The only machines that are easier to use thyan prosumers are double-boilers (starting at $1500) and true commercial machines.  

For me, I love using my machine.  Having an HX (heat exchanger) means being able to steam and pull shots at the same time.  It also means more steam power (usually).

 
Jon Rosenthal
Houston, TX
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wkc
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Location: New York
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Espresso: Expobar Office Control
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Electronic Mod B
Roaster: Poppery II
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 10:53pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

JonR10 Said:

Well then, maybe read up about "prosumer" machines.  They have a much easier learning curve.  The only machines that are easier to use thyan prosumers are double-boilers (starting at $1500) and true commercial machines.  

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Starting at $1500?!!!   Let me look into other a little bit more affortable HX units first...
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JonR10
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JonR10
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
Posts: 10,376
Location: Houston, Texas
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: E61 Legend, Livietta,...
Grinder: Robur, B-Vario-W
Vac Pot: Hario Tabletop, Yama...
Drip: Technivorm
Roaster: 1-lb US Roaster, Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Jun 5, 2005, 11:03pm
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

wkc Said:

Let me look into other a little bit more affortable HX units first...

Posted June 5, 2005 link

Yes, that was my point!

Try calling Chris at ChrisCoffee and ask what kind of deal you can get on an HX with Mini for around $1000.  You could also call WLL and EPNW and see if they have any good deals going.

 
Jon Rosenthal
Houston, TX
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wkc
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Joined: 5 Jun 2005
Posts: 57
Location: New York
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: Expobar Office Control
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Electronic Mod B
Roaster: Poppery II
Posted Mon Jun 6, 2005, 12:13am
Subject: Re: I'm in BIG trouble!
 

EPNW?

On the coffee bean, I was just going to get starbux.  What should I get instead?  How are the choices from WLL?
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