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FredtheWhale
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Posted Thu Mar 15, 2007, 5:22pm
Subject: Alex by Izzo
 

Hey,

What do you know about the Alex by Izzo? Any maintenance or performance issues? How does it compare to the Andreja Premium or Vetrano?
The Alex seems to have a good middle ground between the Andreja and Vetrano because it can be plumed or pour over, and has a rotary pump.

Everyone seems hot on the Quick Mill machines, so I'm a bit leery about venturing out.
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Posted Thu Mar 15, 2007, 7:29pm
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

There is an Alex user's group at Google, you might get some answers there.

Velo
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Posted Thu Mar 15, 2007, 7:37pm
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

I have never used the other machines but i own the Alex and it is an awesome and amazing machine.   I was going to get the vetrano but the Alex just won me over. i guess the big feet and its 70pounds caught my eye.  the alex is rotary, you can use it as a pourover or plumb in with the flip of a switch...i have mine hooked up with a flojet and it works awesome.   if you get the alex you will be very happy :)
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lparsons21
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Posted Thu Mar 15, 2007, 9:01pm
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

I looked at all those and ended up with the Alex.  Superb machine.  I used it pourover for a day and then finished the plumb in.  

There have been no reported maintenance issues other than some that needed something when delivered.  Some were from mishandling by the shipping company, but were easily fixed with Chris Coffee's fine help.

Mine was flawless on delivery and has performed for about 4 months with nary a burp.  Strong steam, easy flushing and very forgiveable.

I wrote a review here, and there is another one also.  Check Home-barista.com forums as there has been some discussion over there also.

To put a cap on it.  If I had it all to do over again, I would buy the Alex.

 
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Posted Thu Mar 15, 2007, 9:50pm
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

i agree with lparsons21...now go get the Alex
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FredtheWhale
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Posted Fri Mar 16, 2007, 4:33am
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

thank you all very much for the feedback. i really like the plumb / pour over switch. i'm not planning to plumb directly because we have pretty hard water and i really should wait to plumb until we soften or i add something to the espresso line. it looks like the alex is essentially the same price as the andreja plus the plumb accessory.

how much noisier is a vibrating pump than a rotary? i keep reading about the "super quiet" rotary pump but don't have any perspective.
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lparsons21
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Posted Fri Mar 16, 2007, 8:45am
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

I can't speak for other machines, but while the rotary pump in my Alex is much quieter than was the vibe pump in my Sylvia, you won't have any problem hearing it!

 
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lparsons21
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Posted Fri Mar 16, 2007, 8:49am
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

FredtheWhale Said:

thank you all very much for the feedback. i really like the plumb / pour over switch. i'm not planning to plumb directly because we have pretty hard water and i really should wait to plumb until we soften or i add something to the espresso line. it looks like the alex is essentially the same price as the andreja plus the plumb accessory.

Posted March 16, 2007 link

When I bought my Alex, I had every intention of plumbing it in, so I bought the softener/filter kit that Chris Coffee sells.  I think it is around $100US and well worth it.  Frankly after you use it as a pourover for awhile, you will really start chomping at the bit to get it plumbed in.  HX/E61 machines just use a lot of water with the cooling flush and the cleanup after the pull.

 
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DavidinVT
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Posted Thu Mar 29, 2007, 6:01pm
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

Hi,

Like so many others before me, I have lately been engulfed in the maelstrom of researching a first time machine purchase.   Weeks of feverish reading on both CG and Home-Barista.   Hours perusing the ChrisCoffee and 1st-Line sites.   Moments of supposed "revelation" followed by protracted periods of confusion and mental paralysis.   You know the drill.

Well, cutting to the chase, I seem finally to have reached a point where the Alex has become the top contender (others considered have been pretty much the full range of "usual suspects" in the $1K - $1.5K price range:  La Valentina, Anita, Andreja, Vetrano, Domobar, etc.).

Attractions of the Alex include the easy switching between pour-over and plumbed-in, the rotary pump, the large-ish boiler and reservoir.

Concerns are primarily around build and long-term durability, given its relative newness and smaller user base.

It is reassuring to read the (mostly) positive appraisals of early adopters.  

I wonder:

-- Are there any hot-off-the-presses niggles or complaints that have emerged recently among owners that I may have missed?

-- Are there reasons to recommend against the Alex as a machine for a first time learner?

-- Is it a machine that does well with a 5-gallon water bottle (and pump) for a "plumbed-in" source?  

Any comments on these or other issues would be much appreciated.

Best wishes,

David
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JV
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Posted Thu Mar 29, 2007, 7:10pm
Subject: Re: Alex by Izzo
 

hi david, i have the alex and so far all i have to say is awesome.  because i live in a small apartment i have my alex hooked up to a flojet on demand pump and a 5gallon water tank and it works perfect.  probably the other alex users have adjusted the pressure to around 1.1 or .9 but i left mine as it came from chris factory its about 1.4.  maybe ill change it but for now it works great.   also steaming milk is great...lots of steam action.  i recommend getting the one whole Expobar steam tip  http://www.wholelattelove.com/Expobar/expobar_steam_tip.cfm   it works perfect.


also here is  an alex forum
http://groups.google.com/group/izzo_alex?hl=en

here is also a great reviews on the alex
"Alex E61 Rotary Espresso Machine"


enjoy.  plus it has a rotary so thats a plus and a water tank...wooo hoo

cheers
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