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cjbrubaker
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Posted Sat Dec 29, 2007, 8:28am
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

One more question - the steam wand is leaking a little steam from the top of the tip, where it attaches to the wand arm. What should I use to remove or tighten it?

The tip is textured, but I can't undo it by hand and it doesn't have bevels for a wrench. I'm thinking of a pipe wrench with a cloth between it and the steam wand tip - is this a good idea?
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cjbrubaker
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Posted Sat Jan 12, 2008, 6:30pm
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

I just noticed that steam leaks out of the water exit chute from the 3-way solenoid when the machine is on, warmed up, and idle. Is this normal? I backflushed a few weeks ago, but didn't noticed if it was doing this before.
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Posted Mon Jan 21, 2008, 2:42am
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

Thought you Rancilio S series fans may find this interesting so I decided to post here :)

A rancilio s26 from Turkiye.. What makes it interesting "it's brand new"!! Funny though.. all these years they kept it at a warehouse, now they are selling it at..hmm..Turkish ebay?? site =D  http://urun.gittigidiyor.com/TEK-GOZLU-ESPRESSO-VE-CAPUCCINO-MAKINASI_W0QQidZZ6901582 I could purchase it if I hadn't set my mind on a Rancilio Epoca =P

added a picture and here's another picture http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/497/69015820it8.jpg (side view)

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Posted Sat Feb 2, 2008, 9:23pm
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

cjbrubaker Said:

One more question - the steam wand is leaking a little steam from the top of the tip, where it attaches to the wand arm. What should I use to remove or tighten it?

The tip is textured, but I can't undo it by hand and it doesn't have bevels for a wrench. I'm thinking of a pipe wrench with a cloth between it and the steam wand tip - is this a good idea?

Posted December 29, 2007 link

thats what I did, use teflon tape (yellow tube) no leak no more!
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jacbri
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Posted Sat Feb 2, 2008, 9:25pm
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

Scale was so bad, I scooped it out of the boiler, wire brushes did nothing..... original owner was an idiot

cjbrubaker Said:

Why did you use muriatic acid? I have a hard time thinking of another acid I'd want to use less. That stuff stinks to high heaven - like vomit if I remember correctly. I guess you'd definitely know when it's all out?

I should be receiving an S24 tomorrow that will need to be descaled. I'd like to use citric acid, but my local homebrew store didn't have it. They did have "star san," a phosphoric acid solution. Yes, it's the same stuff as in coca cola, but a LOT more concentrated. I decided to skip it and start with a bunch of lemon juice and salt and see what happens. Next on the list is vinegar unless I hear some other suggestions from here. After that it's glacial acetic acid, then hydrofluoric for the last bits. Just kidding on those last two.

Here are a couple threads I've been reading to figure this out:

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

Click Here (expobarownersgroup.com)

http://s1cafe.com/wforum/viewtopic.php?t=210

Click Here (stason.org)

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Posted Sat Feb 2, 2008, 9:28pm
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

cjbrubaker Said:

I think all the problems are now solved; just one more question...

After completely disassembling and re-building the steam and hot water valves with the existing parts (new ones haven't arrived yet) I found that I simply wasn't opening up the valves far enough! :) I'm used to a Silvia and Gaggia Espresso, where the steam flows right after the knob bottoms out. These valves open up midway through their range of travel, and are a very different experience. And they don't leek at all!

The back panel came off after unscrewing 2 semi-hidden screws near the water reservoir.

And somehow the pump ran dry in this process. My god do they sound awful when dry! I thought I'd fried it, but I filled the tube with water and blew into it when I turned it on, and it re-filled with water and works fine! So now the machine is fully functional- I'm so excited!

Before I replace all the exterior panels, I'd like to insulate the boiler. Anyone know where I can get the boiler insulation that ships on the Epoca series (S-1, ST-1, or E-1), or something comparable?

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lol, mine ran dry once when hooking up the water softener..... thought I ruined the s26
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Posted Mon Feb 4, 2008, 5:28pm
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

Dear All

I have opened the boiler of my S20 3 Group coffee machine. It dad a lot of scale in it that I cleaned out and then soaked it in a citric solution to clean it out. It is now clean inside but there is a few spots inside where the chrome has come off and the copper is exposed. Do I need to have it re-chrome, and if so does it need to be bright chrome or hard chrome?

Cheers

MXJ
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2008, 11:24pm
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copper water pipes seem to be fine, so my guess would be your alright
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Posted Sat Feb 16, 2008, 8:04pm
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

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cjbrubaker
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Posted Mon Feb 18, 2008, 4:56pm
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL Rancilio S20 series Thread S24, S26, S27
 

jacbri Said:

Some restoration photos

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Jacbri -- Thanks for the pics and diagrams! What a great resource.

I hooked up a pressure gauge to my S24 today, and I'm putting out 170 psi =~ 12 bar. Can I use a Silvia adjustable OPV in this machine? The connections look right; just hoping for some confirmation.

Here's the valve I'm looking to install:

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