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mdickneite
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Posted Sun Dec 16, 2012, 5:02pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

First, I want to thank everyone for this thread - it's been a fantastic education for me on this machine (of which I now own), and while I'm still learning I've picked up a lot of good info from everyone here! That being said, I'd like to stop trolling through the forums as an observer and finally start contributing to the discussion a little.

In response to CafeEspresso on the milk texturing I've found that too little milk is very difficult (if not impossible) to texture correctly, and I've found it unfortunate in learning that there is always a little waste. However, keep in mind that you are also adding some volume to your milk through the texturing process, so you actually are using and losing less milk than you think. Hopefully that offsets your woes a little :). WholeLatteLove has a video on YouTube which does a pretty good job at showing a few types of incorrect texturing, so at least you'll know what to avoid.

One nice thing about the BDB is that it does seem a bit underpowered in the steaming department, so you can practice getting the placement correct on the steam wand and any mistakes in placement within the pitcher are not quite as crucial because you have time to correct those mistakes.
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jvolkman
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Posted Mon Dec 17, 2012, 7:59pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Hi all,

I've had this machine for about a week now. Breville replaced the first one due to the hot water dispenser dripping while steaming. Basically, if I have the steam wand fully open for more than about 20 seconds (i.e., while steaming milk), the hot water dispenser starts dripping about once every 10 seconds.

Well, the replacement arrived today and it also drips. It's definitely not a big deal, but Breville insisted on replacing the first unit.

Do other people experience dripping from the hot water dispenser while steaming? I'd rather not replace again if this is somewhat normal.

 
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DanPK
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Posted Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:54pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Hi everyone,
I'll join the chorus of first-time posters appreciating the great info and seeking more information.  I have my heart set on a BDB (in large part due to reading this thread), but limited counter space.  Our cabinets are 14 5/8" off the counter; I see specs that say the BDB is 14.5" tall, but if that's rounded at all I'd be in trouble!  Would one of you fine folks be able to confirm that height?  And, in your experiences, would it be problematic to have so little clearance?  I'd be able to pull it forward to access the tank, but I'm not sure if heat loss off the top would be an issue.

Thank you all,
Dan
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Park_Ridge_Dave
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 4:39am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

cafeespresso Said:

Guys...I'm struggling with taming the steam on this machine. It has been the most disappointing thing about it. I'm only being successful doing a big pot (half full on the breville container that comes with it), but I usually need about 4-8oz at the most, and I hate wasting milk.

Great microfoam is a must for our daily dose of cappas.

Any links to instructional videos or tip bits would be greatly appreciated.

Posted December 16, 2012 link

FWIW I have an old ceramic pot that I have had for 25+ years that is about 1/3 the size (from an old Avanti set). I use it for milk on single shot drinks. Check yard sales? Look on line?

Check the "Milk Management video @ Metropolis.com".

For tips and "how-tos", check the videos at "Whole Latte Love", "Seattle Coffee Gear", and "Metropolis Coffee". Breville has some good videos also (e.g. Backflush).

Here is the URL for the Backflush video Click Here (www.youtube.com) (use the click here "tab")

Cheers,

Dave

Edited to correct typo and to add URL to Backflush video

 
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 5:17am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Park_Ridge_Dave Said:

FWIW I have an old ceramic pot that I have had for 25+ years that is about 1/3 the size (from an old Avanti set). I use it for milk on single shot drinks. Check yard sales? Look on line?

Check the "Milk Management video @ Metropolis.com".

For tips and "how-tis", check the videos at "Whole Latte Love", "Seattle Coffee Gear", and "Metropolis Coffee". Breville has some good videos also (e.g. Backflush).

Cheers,

Dave

Posted December 18, 2012 link

Dave, Thanks, I will check those for sure. I'm doing a bit better with the steaming, but there is room to improve.

After working with this machine for 3+ weeks, I have to say that Breville really delivered. After 7+ years with a HX machine, my espresso has improved tremendously. I'm getting very consistent results shot after shot.

The machine is easy to operate, elegant, solid and pleasing to the eye.

I'm keeping this machine, and I highly recommend to anyone on the fence. Would also buy again.
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 7:25am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

DanPK Said:

Hi everyone,
I'll join the chorus of first-time posters appreciating the great info and seeking more information.  I have my heart set on a BDB (in large part due to reading this thread), but limited counter space.  Our cabinets are 14 5/8" off the counter; I see specs that say the BDB is 14.5" tall, but if that's rounded at all I'd be in trouble!  Would one of you fine folks be able to confirm that height?  And, in your experiences, would it be problematic to have so little clearance?  I'd be able to pull it forward to access the tank, but I'm not sure if heat loss off the top would be an issue.

Thank you all,
Dan

Posted December 17, 2012 link

I measured counter top to machine top and it's just under 15 inches, definitely above 14 5/8.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 7:27am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Dan,

I just measured mine and it comes out at 14 3/4" from the counter to the top.
I can't see how you could get 14.5 out of it.

Also the top does get pretty hot, so that might be an issue depending on your cabinets.
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Park_Ridge_Dave
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 7:39am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

DanPK Said:

Hi everyone,
I'll join the chorus of first-time posters appreciating the great info and seeking more information.  I have my heart set on a BDB (in large part due to reading this thread), but limited counter space.  Our cabinets are 14 5/8" off the counter; I see specs that say the BDB is 14.5" tall, but if that's rounded at all I'd be in trouble!  Would one of you fine folks be able to confirm that height?  And, in your experiences, would it be problematic to have so little clearance?  I'd be able to pull it forward to access the tank, but I'm not sure if heat loss off the top would be an issue.

Thank you all,
Dan

Posted December 17, 2012 link

Dan,

JM2CW, but, if there is no way to fit it on the counter, would you have room for a small cart? I used that solution in an old apartment that had a minuscule kitchen.

I could roll it out of the way when not in use and also roll it into the dining area for table side service. Just a thought.

Cheers,

Dave

 
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Park_Ridge_Dave
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 7:49am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

cafeespresso Said:

Dave, Thanks, I will check those for sure. I'm doing a bit better with the steaming, but there is room to improve.

After working with this machine for 3+ weeks, I have to say that Breville really delivered. After 7+ years with a HX machine, my espresso has improved tremendously. I'm getting very consistent results shot after shot.

The machine is easy to operate, elegant, solid and pleasing to the eye.

I'm keeping this machine, and I highly recommend to anyone on the fence. Would also buy again.

Posted December 18, 2012 link

lmao, there is ALWAYS room to improve! ;-) I agree, the machine seems, so far, to be good, especially at the price point.

After the factory warranty is up, I believe that I may do some of the "mods" that I have seen on the "Aussie" forums (e.g. Brass "bodied" valve  for the OPV, Gasket changes etc). That should make it pretty "bulletproof".

I have seen some "stirrings" about DIY de-scaling too. I have lake Michigan water that goes through a Pur filter before the BDB internal filter so, that should be a ways out. Time will tell about overall durability etc.

JMHO

Dave

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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 7:53am
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Jeremy,
I've been using boiler stream for preheating cups half filled with water I source external to the machine. Using the stream to bring cup water temperature above 200 F. So, far no sign of codependent dribble at the brew boiler water drop. Might this be caused by a softly seated valve vibrating loose?
-Chris
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