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expobar
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Posted Sun Jun 13, 2004, 5:37pm
Subject: Best grinder for me?
 

So I got a job, and am planning on blowing half of my paycheck on a grinder.  So I have a 200-250 dollar budget.  What are the best grinders for the money in that price range?  Right now im looking at:

Innova Grinders (Really any, since the conical is so cheap)  I like that it's stepless and cheap, and got good reviews
Gaggia MDF - Matches my Gaggia Espresso, respectable brand
Solis Maestro Plus (maybe, probably not) Cheapest

the Rocky is too much, by 50 dollars, unless chris coffee will go back down to the old price
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JR
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Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: Germantown, TN (right next to Elvistown)
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Old Coffee Gaggia (x2.5)
Grinder: Cunill Tranquilo
Drip: Bona Vita (Thermal)
Roaster: GG/UFO
Posted Sun Jun 13, 2004, 8:20pm
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

If that's really your price range, take a look at the Cunill Tranquilo (also known as "Astra Home Grinder").  They're $239, last I checked.  I don't think you will find a better grinder for that price (unless it's possibly the Innova).  "Marcus" was offering a slightly used one for sale here on CoffeeGeek.  I don't know if it's still available.

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brokencup
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 1,617
Location: Atlanta
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Spaziale S1
Grinder: Cimbali Junior, Infinity
Drip: Technivorm
Roaster: RK Drum
Posted Sun Jun 13, 2004, 9:02pm
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

Check out the buyer remorse returns at WLL  here. They are about 25% off of list.  They have a bunch of grinders at good prices including a Mazzer Mini for $319 and a Rocky for $236. What was your budget again? ;-))

BTW I believe they carry a 1 year warranty and a 15 day return window.

Bob
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bolojm
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Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Posts: 422
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Isomac Amica (PIDed)
Grinder: Mazzer Mini
Vac Pot: none
Drip: French Press, on occasion
Roaster: I-roast, unassembled SC/CO
Posted Sun Jun 13, 2004, 9:04pm
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

expobar Said:

So I got a job, and am planning on blowing half of my paycheck on a grinder.  So I have a 200-250 dollar budget.  What are the best grinders for the money in that price range?  Right now im looking at:

Innova Grinders (Really any, since the conical is so cheap)  I like that it's stepless and cheap, and got good reviews
Gaggia MDF - Matches my Gaggia Espresso, respectable brand
Solis Maestro Plus (maybe, probably not) Cheapest

the Rocky is too much, by 50 dollars, unless chris coffee will go back down to the old price

Posted June 13, 2004 link

Good question. I have owned 2 Maestros. While good, I have found (in both cases) that they provide an somewhat inconsistent grind for my Miss Silvia, and the burrs will wear out after about a year. I purchased a Rocky Doserless, and have never looked back. It is worth a little extra $$. Try Whole Latte Love...they gave me a 5% discount just because I was a repeat customer.

I have heard good things about the Innova I-1...but YMMV.
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aeroplane
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Joined: 1 May 2004
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Location: Colorado
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Spaziale S1 v2
Grinder: Rancilio Rocky
Drip: Bodum French press
Roaster: FreshRoast w/modified switch
Posted Mon Jun 14, 2004, 5:51am
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

brokencup Said:

Check out the buyer remorse returns at WLL  here. They are about 25% off of list.  They have a bunch of grinders at good prices including a Mazzer Mini for $319 and a Rocky for $236. What was your budget again? ;-))

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Those are great prices!  I have a Rocky and love it, and would do it again, or buy a Mazzer. My origional plan was a Maestro Plus, but I am VERY glad that I spent the extra money.

Yes, it is a lot of money for a grinder, but if you buy a cheap grinder, say for $100-150, you WILL replace it in a year or two, and then you will buy a $250 grinder. SO, that $250 grinder will have the $150 grinder rolled into the price, costing you a total of $400.

I have made this mistake on a number of high price items (Add a zero or two...) and have learned my lesson. Yes, it takes longer to save up the money for the more expensive item, but so what? The good one will last you a long, long, long time. You are young, if you buy the good one you will have a really really good grinder for many years. It will be repairable, and parts will probably be no problem to get for the forseable future.

Oh, off-topic - why do you say that Lincoln in not near Kearny? Inside joke? Ya hate the middle of the state? Do you just like Lincoln a whole bunch? (I don't blame you...)

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zephyrus
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Joined: 5 Nov 2003
Posts: 261
Location: Flint, Michigan
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Isomac Rituale
Grinder: Rancilio Rocky- Doser
Drip: Bodum F.P. w/ Swissgold
Roaster: WB Poppery (1500w)
Posted Mon Jun 14, 2004, 10:16am
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

WTG on getting the job!  It's both good and bad news that you've developed a taste for the finer things in life at an early age... The bad news is that now you have to find a way to pay for them ;)

Don't give up on the Rocky just because of price; I can't remember the exact amount I paid, but it was right around $270, shipping included for the stainless(about 2 months ago from WLL).  For the price difference, I'd stick with a new machine. Your budget is so close to a new Rocky, it would be well worth it to wait a bit for the extra money (if, in fact, the Rocky is something you're seriously considering).

Jeff

 
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Location: Southern California
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: PV Lusso, Cremina, Oly...
Grinder: OE Pharos
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos
Drip: Manual (funnel)
Roaster: Heat gun
Posted Mon Jun 14, 2004, 12:40pm
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

Someone, older and wiser than I, once told me, "It never costs more to go first class". Now, obviously, this is all relative, but as far as a choice like this, I think there's some merit to it. On a similar note, I remember seeing an advertisement for a grill, I think it was a Ducane, that said, "Buy your last grill first". While it may be wishful thinking, there seems to be a few grinders that would allow you to change the word "grill" with "grinder" in that statement.

I seem to remember that you're an appreciator of good espresso, so a good grinder is in line. Don't have a Rocky myself, but it seems you can't go wrong there. And WLL's remorse-returns are a decent deal. And from what I've read, an espresso enthusiast may be disappointed with a Maestro Plus.

That being said, I use a Cunill for espresso, and it works out fantastic. Unbelievably consistent grind, it's fast, and somewhat quiet. But the looks aren't for everyone! My brother has teamed up his Gaggia Carezza with a Gaggia MDF, and is happy, though he seems to wish there were more "clicks"... on one setting, a pull is too long (30+ seconds) while one click coarser, it's too short (approx 18 seconds).

I also have an Innova I2 doserless I use for drip/vac-pot grinding. It does great for this, but is slow and loud. And a fair amount of ground coffee gets hung-up in the exit chute. But the resulting grind is even more consistent than with my Cunill. But do not (!) get this grinder, or the I1, if you would like to change around between grind coarseness settings for different brewing methods. The worm-gear adjustment for the burr is a clever design, but a pain to be constantly adjusting.

What I've learned trying many different grinders is that none are perfect. But you adapt to the idiosyncracies of the one you select.

Good luck!

 
Bob
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expobar
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Posted Mon Jun 14, 2004, 8:34pm
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

aeroplane Said:

Oh, off-topic - why do you say that Lincoln in not near Kearny? Inside joke? Ya hate the middle of the state? Do you just like Lincoln a whole bunch? (I don't blame you...)

Posted June 14, 2004 link

In the regional post, I put anyone from nebraska? and a lot of people replied talking about Ryan Dennhardt, who placed fourth in National Barista Competitions, and he's in kearney.  So, i said im not near kearney
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lindybell
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Joined: 14 Jun 2004
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Location: San Diego
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Krups Gusto
Grinder: Rocky on the way!
Vac Pot: Dozens...
Drip: Bunn
Roaster: Popcorn Pumpers (7),...
Posted Tue Jun 15, 2004, 2:05am
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

expobar Said:

the Rocky is too much, by 50 dollars, unless chris coffee will go back down to the old price

Posted June 13, 2004 link

I ordered a stainless Rocky with doser this morning from WholeLatteLove for $250, shipping included.  They price matched the illyusa website, and are even throwing in the 2 cans of Illy beans.  Can't wait for it to get here so I can start whining about the doser!

Linda
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zephyrus
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zephyrus
Joined: 5 Nov 2003
Posts: 261
Location: Flint, Michigan
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Isomac Rituale
Grinder: Rancilio Rocky- Doser
Drip: Bodum F.P. w/ Swissgold
Roaster: WB Poppery (1500w)
Posted Tue Jun 15, 2004, 5:05am
Subject: Re: Best grinder for me?
 

Damn, I can't believe the prices on the rocky are actually going down...

I'd jump on this one, Eric. (the grinder, that is...)



Can't wait for it to get here so I can start whining about the doser!

I see you've been reading a few other threads eh? lol. Welcome to CG, Linda!

Jeff

 
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